so this agenda thing.

[Newman Noggs]

Haven't got any strong feelings on the subject but I'm intrigued by the fact that, for the second season running we play all but one of our main rivals away in the second half of the season. In theory, the fixtures should work out with a 50/50 chance of playing any given team in that order. To play 5 out of 6 in that order twice on the trot must be quite a long shot. Still, I am advised that, since we have to play every one twice anyway, it makes no difference. Just a statistical anomoly I guess.

 

[Salfordian Blue]

Jamie Jackson couldn't be more biased if he wrote for a rag fanzine. He's also not funny and a shite writer as well. I love reading his match reports when we've battered some team and his bitterness won't allow him admit how good we are so he'll use about 40% of the article on one chance the other team had. A laughable man in every way.

Looking at the article I note that the writer in fairness to him is not disguising his prejudice.
He is writing under Football > Man United which may make it similar to watching MUFC TV ?

He isn't doing that when he's writing our match reports against someone like Stoke though.

I'm not talking about any agenda with him either, just him. He's a typical rag, a sore loser and small time bitter and I've really noticed it because I read the online Guardian because their comments system is the best.

I read and post on the Guardian all the time, and have commented on his bias on numerous occasions. Usually get moderated, mind. It's a great site on the whole though, with the best comments section of all the UK papers. You're also spared from having to deal with the bigoted cavemen you see on tabloid press sites. However, it's gone waaaay overboard on the United coverage recently. Everyday sees a new article. "Van Gaal sternly lifts eyebrow in training" et cetera. Very annoying.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Ladyman must be sick or something.
Good article in the fail about our squad depth today.
If you wanna laugh look at the commemts from the states..india...etc etc
We apparently should be kicked out and the.sheikh is gonna be walking oh so soon.

 

[john@staustell]

Van Ghoul's (daily) interview on SSN this morning was a full five minutes. It's absolutely ridiculous this continuous RAG publicity fest on SKY.

 

[cibaman]

Van Ghoul's (daily) interview on SSN this morning was a full five minutes. It's absolutely ridiculous this continuous RAG publicity fest on SKY.

As long as he spouts, they'll show it.

 

[SilverFox2]

Looking at the article I note that the writer in fairness to him is not disguising his prejudice.
He is writing under Football > Man United which may make it similar to watching MUFC TV ?

He isn't doing that when he's writing our match reports against someone like Stoke though.

I'm not talking about any agenda with him either, just him. He's a typical rag, a sore loser and small time bitter and I've really noticed it because I read the online Guardian because their comments system is the best.

I read and post on the Guardian all the time, and have commented on his bias on numerous occasions. Usually get moderated, mind. It's a great site on the whole though, with the best comments section of all the UK papers. You're also spared from having to deal with the bigoted cavemen you see on tabloid press sites. However, it's gone waaaay overboard on the United coverage recently. Everyday sees a new article. "Van Gaal sternly lifts eyebrow in training" et cetera. Very annoying.

Annoying when it happens in general editorial I suppose, but the newspaper example used was not it was under MUFC , however I agree that perhaps the editor would have been wrong to ask this person to give the same article under the 'Football' rather than its actual 'MUFC' tab.
Seems that maybe they like all newspapers these days are chasing circulation and articles that are skewed to a non MCFC focus are bound to be more likely to sell.

I like reading MEN after Derby day to view the different slants that the City and United specialist writers put on the same game.

 

[johnmc]

Van Ghoul's (daily) interview on SSN this morning was a full five minutes. It's absolutely ridiculous this continuous RAG publicity fest on SKY.

Thats not an agenda though. The rags like it or not have more fans than anybody else so of course Sky will show more of them. They are a profit making business at the end of the day. Do you believe City should get the same coverage as say Swansea then to make it even for all clubs?

And with regards the fixtures, theres an article somewhere which highlights when certain clubs can and cannot play each other. A lot of fixtures are pre determined to a certain degreee because they have to be.

 

[Bill]

Van Ghoul's (daily) interview on SSN this morning was a full five minutes. It's absolutely ridiculous this continuous RAG publicity fest on SKY.

Thats not an agenda though. The rags like it or not have more fans than anybody else so of course Sky will show more of them. They are a profit making business at the end of the day. Do you believe City should get the same coverage as say Swansea then to make it even for all clubs?

And with regards the fixtures, theres an article somewhere which highlights when certain clubs can and cannot play each other. A lot of fixtures are pre determined to a certain degreee because they have to be.

but where is the journalistic professionalism in all this. is it not right that they promote a club , any club, in this way. supposed to present the facts not sell shirts for them. that's what mufc tv is for, its not the job of a national broadcaster.

 

[hertsblue]

This debate about fixtures reminded me of the GPC's rant about the list in 2009. If nothing else, it gives an insight into the behind the scenes machinations;


United have still to entertain Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Aston Villa at home, arguably handing them an advantage in the title run-in, but Ferguson insists that the club are already planning to address the fixture issue with the Premier League ahead of the publication of the 2009-10 fixtures.


Ferguson said: "I've been saying this for a few months, but our programme didn't do us any favours and I think we have been handicapped by the Premier League in the fixture list.


"They tell me it's not planned. I've got my doubts. I'm not saying what they do down there, but next year we will be sending somebody to see how it happens, I can assure you. I just don't understand how you can get the fixtures like that."

United secretary Ken Ramsden will be on the Fixtures Working Party this summer, but the Premier League, who received no complaint from United following the private release of fixtures to the 20 top-flight clubs ahead of publication last June, countered Ferguson's comments by insisting that they have no influence over the random nature of the fixture compilation.

A Premier League spokesman said: "The Premier League fixtures are put together through as random a process as possible.

"The initial list is created by specialist software before going to the Fixtures Working Party, which is made up of representatives from the Premier League, Football League, FA, clubs and supporters.

"The police also approve it before it is sent to the clubs, at which point they can raise any objections they may have.

"There are various factors that go into the structuring of the fixture list – police requests, club requests, as well as involvement in European or Fifa competitions for example – but the overriding factor is the luck of the draw."

Not sure what the makeup of the "Fixtures working Party" is currently but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that a rag official was on there somewhere.

the fixtures are as bent as fuck. as i say , how the hell do we happen to end up being the opponents for the scum on a munich anniversery? at the swamp too. no sorry. fixed.

Don't forget at Pool last year also

 

[johnmc]

but where is the journalistic professionalism in all this. is it not right that they promote a club , any club, in this way. supposed to present the facts not sell shirts for them. that's what mufc tv is for, its not the job of a national broadcaster.

Hold on, so say the Daily Mirror notice an upturn in sales and therefore profit if they run a story about the rags then say Spurs, what do you think they will do more of. Forget Journalistic professionalism - it rarely exists. Its all about £££

As per my previous example, if we got the same coverage as Burnley or Swansea we would say we are a bigger club etc so should get more coverage. The fact is we do get more coverage than most just not as much as the rags and most probably Liverpool and Arsenal