So, What Does Soriano Say To Pellegrini..........

NQCitizen said:
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.

Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.

You were expecting to be 8th nearly a third of the way through the season then?

Yer why not!! We have a new manager and coaching team. The team that won the league last year also changed manager and their coaching team......they have ONE point more.

Does that not say anything to you or are we a special case all of a sudden?

I'm gobsmacked at how we've suddenly become a right set of mard hissy throwing fans......have some patience FFS.<br /><br />-- Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:03 pm --<br /><br />
bobmcfc said:
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.

Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.

Some of us are simply defending unfair assessments of our previous manager that's all


And thats understandable pal.
 
NQCitizen said:
Ray78 said:
NQCitizen said:
Villa? Cardiff? Stoke?

Wolves, Hull Everton.

Fair point, isolated poor performances under one manager (who only lost one more away all last season than we have already this season) obviously tally with winning 1 of the first 6 successive games under a new manager.

Especially when the opposition we play have been able to gather all their world-beating talent into a bloody unplayable LONG BALL.


From the title winning season:

Manchester City kept up their unbeaten start to the Premier League season with victory over QPR in an entertaining see-saw encounter at Loftus Road.

Rangers began well and led through Jay Bothroyd's header but Edin Dzeko fired City level just before half-time.

David Silva slotted City ahead, but QPR hit back when Heidar Helguson deflected in Bothroyd's header on the line.

The visitors rallied again though and struck decisively 16 minutes from time when Yaya Toure headed in the winner.

City have lapped up the plaudits this season for a series of handsome wins but manager Roberto Mancini has demanded that his side also learn to grind out results when they do not play well. He now has an example to point to.


Coach Platt defends lack of clean sheets

Mancini's men were far from their best but dug in to earn a 10th win in 11 league games and an eighth successive victory in all competitions to maintain their five-point lead at the top of the table.

Great news for City, but the result was harsh on Neil Warnock's side who gave as good as they got even though the odds were stacked against them.

Despite of the absence of Shaun Derry and Adel Taarabt because of illness and injury respectively, the home side began superbly. Helguson twice threatened early on with shots from the right-hand corner of the box before Anton Ferdinand spurned a great chance at the back post following the Icelandic striker's header back across goal.

The home side continued in this vain and were rewarded in the 28th minute when Bothroyd rose highest to head in Joey Barton's curling free-kick from the right.

It could have been much worse for City before the break, but goalkeeper Joe Hart saved Jamie Mackie's long-range shot and Helguson's headed follow-up - although the latter was offside - before Bothroyd hit the post with another header.

DID YOU KNOW?
Manchester City have now become the fifth club in the English top-flight to win at least 10 of the first 11 matches of a season. Of the seven previous occasions this has happened, only Liverpool (1990/1991) and Manchester United (1985/1986) failed to win the title.

However, even when they are not playing well, City's quality ensures they remain a threat and they demonstrated this with aplomb two minutes before half-time.

QPR defender Ferdinand had earlier denied Dzeko with a superb block, but this time the striker got the better of the defender, cutting inside him after being found by Milner down the right, and firing in low past Paddy Kenny.

It would have been harsh on the home side, but City could have led at the break had a post not denied Sergio Aguero's 25-yard strike.

Early in the second half City did lead when Silva neatly took Dzeko's cross from the right in his stride before lashing the ball past Kenny.

The game now swung in the favour of the visitors and it seemed just a matter of time before they scored again.

It is testimony to QPR's spirit then that it was they who next found the net as Bothroyd's goalbound header from an Armand Traore cross ultimately found the net courtesy of the back of Helguson, who was on the goalline but - despite the protestations of a number of City players - not offside.

Toure would have the decisive say though, rising high to power a header past Kenny from Aleksandar Kolarov's cross.

QPR would have one more chance to salvage a point but the bar denied Helguson with a late header and the points went to City.


Warnock pleased with gung-ho Rangers

Queens Park Rangers manager Neil Warnock:

"We were organised and took the game to them, and I think we played some cracking football. It was the width of the post on a couple of occasions.

"The crowd were great, but we got punished by quality players. They came down here today, some of the foreign lads, maybe not aware of us. I thought it was a great game of English football.

"We thought, 'If we're going to get beat, we might as well have a go at them and get beat.'

"We can improve, but we've shown a lot of people today what we can do."

Manchester City coach David Platt:

"Perhaps we weren't at our sharpest, what with all the travelling midweek and a few knocks as well.

"We didn't have that brightness in our play. The important thing is that when we are not at our sharpest we can still go on and take the three points.

"One clean sheet in seven is a by-product of the way we play. Last season we had the best defensive record in the division. If you're as offensive as we are then we're going to be open to one or two things. The manager's a perfectionist and he'll be looking at that."
 
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.

Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.



Simple questions for you mate, do you think rotating our best two fullbacks was a good idea against Sunderland?
Do you think Garcia is good enough for the hustle and bustle of the premiership?


Pellagrini apparently thinks so, there's not a single City fan I know that rates Garcia and Kolorov.

What worries me is the likes of Milner, Richards, Lescott and Clichy have gone backwards under his stewardship.

What happens to the clubs plans if we don't make top four this season?
 
baildon blue said:
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.

Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.
You must be easily pleased . Bloody hell all City fans should be upset after that display yesterday . 3 away defeats to relegation fodder teams . Not good enough .

Any team can beat any team on its day, thats why the term 'football underdogs' is such a used word.

Am I happy about yesterday.......Fook NO!!

But would you expect us to goe through a season unbeat?
 
bobmcfc said:
Ray78 said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
With all due respect pal.My mum could have got us out of that group and I guarantee you our previous manager would have even managed it despite his record in europe.

Mancini's record in Russia and the Ukraine at both Inter and City were two defeats.

He amassed a very healthy point tally in our first champions league group. People forget how bloody hard those 2 seasons worth of groups were and after watching us get a mauling from Bayern this season then I can tell you with certainty that Manuel wouldn't have got out of those groups either. Mancini and my dear departed Mum would have also got through this group (after a mauling off bayern)
He amassed ten points and six of those were against Vilareal, a team relegated at the end of the season. Another three were gained against a weakened Bayern side that had already won the group.
 
Petetheblu said:
baildon blue said:
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.

Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.
You must be easily pleased . Bloody hell all City fans should be upset after that display yesterday . 3 away defeats to relegation fodder teams . Not good enough .

Any team can beat any team on its day, thats why the term 'football underdogs' is such a used word.

Am I happy about yesterday.......Fook NO!!

But would you expect us to goe through a season unbeat?
just two prem games in a row would be nice.
 
Petetheblu said:
baildon blue said:
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.

Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.
You must be easily pleased . Bloody hell all City fans should be upset after that display yesterday . 3 away defeats to relegation fodder teams . Not good enough .

Any team can beat any team on its day, thats why the term 'football underdogs' is such a used word.

Am I happy about yesterday.......Fook NO!!

But would you expect us to goe through a season unbeat?
Well we were unbeaten this time last year in the premier league .
 
flb said:
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.

Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.



Simple questions for you mate, do you think rotating our best two fullbacks was a good idea against Sunderland?
Do you think Garcia is good enough for the hustle and bustle of the premiership?


Pellagrini apparently thinks so, there's not a single City fan I know that rates Garcia and Kolorov.

What worries me is the likes of Milner, Richards, Lescott and Clichy have gone backwards under his stewardship.

What happens to the clubs plans if we don't make top four this season?
Call me a fool but I actually rate kolarov, we'll get a good run after this break and by new year we will be in the hunt.
 
LoveCity said:
NQCitizen said:
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.
Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.
You were expecting to be 8th nearly a third of the way through the season then?
3pts up and we're in 3rd, so that's quite disingenuous. 4pts up and we're in 2nd. 5pts up and we're in 1st. It's not a typical season so far. When we fall 12pts behind the leaders, then some of these extreme reactions might be a bit more valid.
Is it broken calculator day on here or what? We've got 19 points and the last time I looked 19 plus 5 equalled 24 which I believe is fewer than Arsenal's haul of 25.
 
East Level 2 said:
LoveCity said:
NQCitizen said:
You were expecting to be 8th nearly a third of the way through the season then?
3pts up and we're in 3rd, so that's quite disingenuous. 4pts up and we're in 2nd. 5pts up and we're in 1st. It's not a typical season so far. When we fall 12pts behind the leaders, then some of these extreme reactions might be a bit more valid.
Is it broken calculator day on here or what? We've got 19 points and the last time I looked 19 plus 5 equalled 24 which I believe is fewer than Arsenal's haul of 25.

Is it pedantry day or what? Pardon my mistake! 5pts or 6pts, the point stays the same... there is very little in it at this point and other teams are dropping points carelessly too (except Arsenal, but cracks may be forming now).
 
flb said:
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.

Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.



Simple questions for you mate, do you think rotating our best two fullbacks was a good idea against Sunderland?
Do you think Garcia is good enough for the hustle and bustle of the premiership?


Pellagrini apparently thinks so, there's not a single City fan I know that rates Garcia and Kolorov.

What worries me is the likes of Milner, Richards, Lescott and Clichy have gone backwards under his stewardship.

What happens to the clubs plans if we don't make top four this season?

And so has Nastasic - worringly so.
At the end of last season we were all outraged that Nasty had not made the Young Player of the Year shortlist he had played so well.
Now he is a nervous wreck and at times a liability. As I say very worrying.
 
LoveCity said:
NQCitizen said:
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.

Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.

You were expecting to be 8th nearly a third of the way through the season then?

3pts up and we're in 3rd, so that's quite disingenuous. 4pts up and we're in 2nd. 5pts up and we're in 1st. It's not a typical season so far. When we fall 12pts behind the leaders, then some of these extreme reactions might be a bit more valid.

That is a fair assessment but on the other hand it shows how we have completely missed the chance to capitalise despite being arguably the best placed to (finished second and didn't lose a manager that's been monumentally important to the club for decades, bought in 5 quality players). We could easily have been 9 points behind, it's good fortune that the leaders lost.
 
TGR said:
flb said:
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.

Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.



Simple questions for you mate, do you think rotating our best two fullbacks was a good idea against Sunderland?
Do you think Garcia is good enough for the hustle and bustle of the premiership?


Pellagrini apparently thinks so, there's not a single City fan I know that rates Garcia and Kolorov.

What worries me is the likes of Milner, Richards, Lescott and Clichy have gone backwards under his stewardship.

What happens to the clubs plans if we don't make top four this season?

And so has Nastasic - worringly so.
At the end of last season we were all outraged that Nasty had not made the Young Player of the Year shortlist he had played so well.
Now he is a nervous wreck and at times a liability. As I say very worrying.

Like Clichy he hasn't recovered from the Cup Final.
 
Ray78 said:
NQCitizen said:
Ray78 said:
Wolves, Hull Everton.

Fair point, isolated poor performances under one manager (who only lost one more away all last season than we have already this season) obviously tally with winning 1 of the first 6 successive games under a new manager.

Especially when the opposition we play have been able to gather all their world-beating talent into a bloody unplayable LONG BALL.


From the title winning season:

Manchester City kept up their unbeaten start to the Premier League season with victory over QPR in an entertaining see-saw encounter at Loftus Road.

Rangers began well and led through Jay Bothroyd's header but Edin Dzeko fired City level just before half-time.

David Silva slotted City ahead, but QPR hit back when Heidar Helguson deflected in Bothroyd's header on the line.

The visitors rallied again though and struck decisively 16 minutes from time when Yaya Toure headed in the winner.

City have lapped up the plaudits this season for a series of handsome wins but manager Roberto Mancini has demanded that his side also learn to grind out results when they do not play well. He now has an example to point to.


Coach Platt defends lack of clean sheets

Mancini's men were far from their best but dug in to earn a 10th win in 11 league games and an eighth successive victory in all competitions to maintain their five-point lead at the top of the table.

Great news for City, but the result was harsh on Neil Warnock's side who gave as good as they got even though the odds were stacked against them.

Despite of the absence of Shaun Derry and Adel Taarabt because of illness and injury respectively, the home side began superbly. Helguson twice threatened early on with shots from the right-hand corner of the box before Anton Ferdinand spurned a great chance at the back post following the Icelandic striker's header back across goal.

The home side continued in this vain and were rewarded in the 28th minute when Bothroyd rose highest to head in Joey Barton's curling free-kick from the right.

It could have been much worse for City before the break, but goalkeeper Joe Hart saved Jamie Mackie's long-range shot and Helguson's headed follow-up - although the latter was offside - before Bothroyd hit the post with another header.

DID YOU KNOW?
Manchester City have now become the fifth club in the English top-flight to win at least 10 of the first 11 matches of a season. Of the seven previous occasions this has happened, only Liverpool (1990/1991) and Manchester United (1985/1986) failed to win the title.

However, even when they are not playing well, City's quality ensures they remain a threat and they demonstrated this with aplomb two minutes before half-time.

QPR defender Ferdinand had earlier denied Dzeko with a superb block, but this time the striker got the better of the defender, cutting inside him after being found by Milner down the right, and firing in low past Paddy Kenny.

It would have been harsh on the home side, but City could have led at the break had a post not denied Sergio Aguero's 25-yard strike.

Early in the second half City did lead when Silva neatly took Dzeko's cross from the right in his stride before lashing the ball past Kenny.

The game now swung in the favour of the visitors and it seemed just a matter of time before they scored again.

It is testimony to QPR's spirit then that it was they who next found the net as Bothroyd's goalbound header from an Armand Traore cross ultimately found the net courtesy of the back of Helguson, who was on the goalline but - despite the protestations of a number of City players - not offside.

Toure would have the decisive say though, rising high to power a header past Kenny from Aleksandar Kolarov's cross.

QPR would have one more chance to salvage a point but the bar denied Helguson with a late header and the points went to City.


Warnock pleased with gung-ho Rangers

Queens Park Rangers manager Neil Warnock:

"We were organised and took the game to them, and I think we played some cracking football. It was the width of the post on a couple of occasions.

"The crowd were great, but we got punished by quality players. They came down here today, some of the foreign lads, maybe not aware of us. I thought it was a great game of English football.

"We thought, 'If we're going to get beat, we might as well have a go at them and get beat.'

"We can improve, but we've shown a lot of people today what we can do."

Manchester City coach David Platt:

"Perhaps we weren't at our sharpest, what with all the travelling midweek and a few knocks as well.

"We didn't have that brightness in our play. The important thing is that when we are not at our sharpest we can still go on and take the three points.

"One clean sheet in seven is a by-product of the way we play. Last season we had the best defensive record in the division. If you're as offensive as we are then we're going to be open to one or two things. The manager's a perfectionist and he'll be looking at that."

The only words that need to be emboldened there are "unbeaten start"
 
flb said:
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.

Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.



Simple questions for you mate, do you think rotating our best two fullbacks was a good idea against Sunderland?
Do you think Garcia is good enough for the hustle and bustle of the premiership?


Pellagrini apparently thinks so, there's not a single City fan I know that rates Garcia and Kolorov.

What worries me is the likes of Milner, Richards, Lescott and Clichy have gone backwards under his stewardship.

What happens to the clubs plans if we don't make top four this season?



Thanks for replying pal.

First of all those aren't simple questions, simple answers are formed from facts otherwise I can only discuss, which is open to opion.

The fullback question: was there a knock in a previous match or training, or perhaps some mistakes which worried pellegrini?

Is garcia good enough: NO but we don't have Barry anymore, would I play him at CB, I may have for a match or so but its a position that needs time to develope and maybe pellegrini was hopeing for a faster transition.

Milner has not become a worse player.
Richards's is injury proned.
Clichy and Zabba's form has suffered under the CB's.
Kolarov's improved, Nasri has improved, Sergio's improved, Silva's improved,

The thing is I never said Pellegrini is god or infact shite, all I'm saying is "give him time" and stop expecting miracles overnight. Sure he'll fuck up with a new team but thats because he's learning.
 
NQCitizen said:
Ray78 said:
NQCitizen said:
Fair point, isolated poor performances under one manager (who only lost one more away all last season than we have already this season) obviously tally with winning 1 of the first 6 successive games under a new manager.

Especially when the opposition we play have been able to gather all their world-beating talent into a bloody unplayable LONG BALL.


From the title winning season:


Manchester City kept up their unbeaten start to the Premier League season with victory over QPR in an entertaining see-saw encounter at Loftus Road.

Rangers began well and led through Jay Bothroyd's header but Edin Dzeko fired City level just before half-time.

David Silva slotted City ahead, but QPR hit back when Heidar Helguson deflected in Bothroyd's header on the line.

The visitors rallied again though and struck decisively 16 minutes from time when Yaya Toure headed in the winner.

City have lapped up the plaudits this season for a series of handsome wins but manager Roberto Mancini has demanded that his side also learn to grind out results when they do not play well. He now has an example to point to.


Coach Platt defends lack of clean sheets

Mancini's men were far from their best but dug in to earn a 10th win in 11 league games and an eighth successive victory in all competitions to maintain their five-point lead at the top of the table.

Great news for City, but the result was harsh on Neil Warnock's side who gave as good as they got even though the odds were stacked against them.

Despite of the absence of Shaun Derry and Adel Taarabt because of illness and injury respectively, the home side began superbly. Helguson twice threatened early on with shots from the right-hand corner of the box before Anton Ferdinand spurned a great chance at the back post following the Icelandic striker's header back across goal.

The home side continued in this vain and were rewarded in the 28th minute when Bothroyd rose highest to head in Joey Barton's curling free-kick from the right.

It could have been much worse for City before the break, but goalkeeper Joe Hart saved Jamie Mackie's long-range shot and Helguson's headed follow-up - although the latter was offside - before Bothroyd hit the post with another header.

DID YOU KNOW?
Manchester City have now become the fifth club in the English top-flight to win at least 10 of the first 11 matches of a season. Of the seven previous occasions this has happened, only Liverpool (1990/1991) and Manchester United (1985/1986) failed to win the title.

However, even when they are not playing well, City's quality ensures they remain a threat and they demonstrated this with aplomb two minutes before half-time.

QPR defender Ferdinand had earlier denied Dzeko with a superb block, but this time the striker got the better of the defender, cutting inside him after being found by Milner down the right, and firing in low past Paddy Kenny.

It would have been harsh on the home side, but City could have led at the break had a post not denied Sergio Aguero's 25-yard strike.

Early in the second half City did lead when Silva neatly took Dzeko's cross from the right in his stride before lashing the ball past Kenny.

The game now swung in the favour of the visitors and it seemed just a matter of time before they scored again.

It is testimony to QPR's spirit then that it was they who next found the net as Bothroyd's goalbound header from an Armand Traore cross ultimately found the net courtesy of the back of Helguson, who was on the goalline but - despite the protestations of a number of City players - not offside.

Toure would have the decisive say though, rising high to power a header past Kenny from Aleksandar Kolarov's cross.

QPR would have one more chance to salvage a point but the bar denied Helguson with a late header and the points went to City.


Warnock pleased with gung-ho Rangers

Queens Park Rangers manager Neil Warnock:

"We were organised and took the game to them, and I think we played some cracking football. It was the width of the post on a couple of occasions.

"The crowd were great, but we got punished by quality players. They came down here today, some of the foreign lads, maybe not aware of us. I thought it was a great game of English football.

"We thought, 'If we're going to get beat, we might as well have a go at them and get beat.'

"We can improve, but we've shown a lot of people today what we can do."

Manchester City coach David Platt:

"Perhaps we weren't at our sharpest, what with all the travelling midweek and a few knocks as well.

"We didn't have that brightness in our play. The important thing is that when we are not at our sharpest we can still go on and take the three points.

"One clean sheet in seven is a by-product of the way we play. Last season we had the best defensive record in the division. If you're as offensive as we are then we're going to be open to one or two things. The manager's a perfectionist and he'll be looking at that."

The only words that need to be emboldened there are "unbeaten start"

Mancini was into his second season in charge........
 
TGR said:
flb said:
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.

Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.



Simple questions for you mate, do you think rotating our best two fullbacks was a good idea against Sunderland?
Do you think Garcia is good enough for the hustle and bustle of the premiership?


Pellagrini apparently thinks so, there's not a single City fan I know that rates Garcia and Kolorov.

What worries me is the likes of Milner, Richards, Lescott and Clichy have gone backwards under his stewardship.

What happens to the clubs plans if we don't make top four this season?

And so has Nastasic - worringly so.
At the end of last season we were all outraged that Nasty had not made the Young Player of the Year shortlist he had played so well.
Now he is a nervous wreck and at times a liability. As I say very worrying.


I was a glass half empty kind of guy when it came to Pellagrini beginning of the season and now I must admit to having no confidence in anything he does.

Dzeko for Negredo baffled me v Sunderland, Navas looks so bloody predictable- there fullback had his number after 10 minutes.Where will Jovetic play? Why the fuck didn't he buy a CB to bolster the defense?


There's more question marks than answers I'm afraid.

Very worrying.
 
what does sorryano say?

he says pull your fucking finger out pal and you are measured on results my friend so lets talk again at Xmas and see how much improvement there has been between then and now becuas these aways results are very worrying indeed..........

then lets hope Pelle responds well to a little pressure.......
 
Petetheblu said:
flb said:
Petetheblu said:
There's some shite spouting going on here.

Pellegrini is not a mediocre manager. He's only been in charge competitively for a few months yet the experts have made up there minds......have any of you stopped to think what you actually sound like? FFS give the guy a chance, you're embarrassing our club.



Simple questions for you mate, do you think rotating our best two fullbacks was a good idea against Sunderland?
Do you think Garcia is good enough for the hustle and bustle of the premiership?


Pellagrini apparently thinks so, there's not a single City fan I know that rates Garcia and Kolorov.

What worries me is the likes of Milner, Richards, Lescott and Clichy have gone backwards under his stewardship.

What happens to the clubs plans if we don't make top four this season?



Thanks for replying pal.

First of all those aren't simple questions, simple answers are formed from facts otherwise I can only discuss, which is open to opion.

The fullback question: was there a knock in a previous match or training, or perhaps some mistakes which worried pellegrini?

Is garcia good enough: NO but we don't have Barry anymore, would I play him at CB, I may have for a match or so but its a position that needs time to develope and maybe pellegrini was hopeing for a faster transition.

Milner has not become a worse player.
Richards's is injury proned.
Clichy and Zabba's form has suffered under the CB's.
Kolarov's improved, Nasri has improved, Sergio's improved, Silva's improved,

The thing is I never said Pellegrini is god or infact shite, all I'm saying is "give him time" and stop expecting miracles overnight. Sure he'll fuck up with a new team but thats because he's learning.


It's great that our offensive players have improved- unfortunately we will win fuck all with how he's setting up our defense.

Milner is kicking his heels at the expense of an inferior player, Navas is not the answer, he's a one trick pony who will be off after a season.

Barry is better than Garcia- as is Rodwell
 

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