Bluebeer said:GStar said:I think the fact people are willing to cast aside aside talent and potential for a "quick fix" says more about what our new found wealth has done to sections of our supporters.
Tevez doesn't feel he's getting his oppourtunity at utd, decides to move on - he's a legend.
Sturridge doesn't think he'll get a chance at City, has ambtion to challenge for honours, moves on - he's a greedy bastad.
I mean the hypocrasy is so plain its laughable that people just don't see it.
John Terry has been an exceptional CB, and im sure he'll continue to be so. But he absolutely no reason to come to City other than picking up even more than his current £100k plus.
So, where do we draw the line? Should we bid for Ferdinand too; because he's arguably an even better player in the same position. Should we bully Madrid into lending us Kaka, stick Ireland on the bench, because, you know, Kaka is better than Ireland, despite one of them actually having the connection to the club and the talent to play for us.
I like this summer, we're buying playerrs that will take us up a level, players that still have something to prove and players who have time to become affiliated and attached to the club. Not only that but it seems our best academy graduates still have thier place in the team. Cook made it clear he wants to keep this club connected to the community and the fans, yet some of our fans just seemingly want to see a FM style team, which, imo would lead to failure long term.
This.....all fookin day
Terry is a leader of the highest order, a huge name in football....and a complete twa t...also of the highest order!!
in terry we'd be buying a ready made combative defender, one who has a will to win in the uglyest possible way, hes an arse, and i for one was gutted when he got the england armband, why the hell would anyone want this thug to be the main guy of our country id never know.
recently hes grown on me....but we'd be over lookin our players like nedum and richards....wheres the fun in buying a ready made guy than watching our young stars grow??
alphonse groenendijk said:I can understand the "hatred" towards Terry, we all know he is a t**t. My heart would tell him to fuck off but my head would take him tomorrow.
We need to go back to Robbie's statement - "We need a winning mentality week in week out." We haven't had these players for 30odd years. Now we have young talent as always but if they are to improve they need to learn the win at all cost mentality, they aren't going to learn that from Dunnie however much we love him.
Ned, Superman, Micah, De Jong, Vinnie are all still young, there is no need to dump them, they need winners around them now, with experience - Tevez, Robbie, Etoo, Santa, Terry - all winners.
The owners can see the weaknesses around us and are going for the throat like businessmen. They want to get us there now but are still buying kids (3 so far i think) to sustain the growth long term.
We need some winners in now to teach our youth how to win. We will never know a players true reasons for coming at this stage of our development, we must trust the management to ensure they are right.
Our job is to sit back and enjoy some success LOL!!!
gh_mcfc said:didnt some one mention terry after we signed barry. Someone who was speaking to the england lads after one of the recent internationals. i think he mentioned Barry joking about who would be captain
leewill31 said:Bluebeer said:GStar said:I think the fact people are willing to cast aside aside talent and potential for a "quick fix" says more about what our new found wealth has done to sections of our supporters.
Tevez doesn't feel he's getting his oppourtunity at utd, decides to move on - he's a legend.
Sturridge doesn't think he'll get a chance at City, has ambtion to challenge for honours, moves on - he's a greedy bastad.
I mean the hypocrasy is so plain its laughable that people just don't see it.
John Terry has been an exceptional CB, and im sure he'll continue to be so. But he absolutely no reason to come to City other than picking up even more than his current £100k plus.
So, where do we draw the line? Should we bid for Ferdinand too; because he's arguably an even better player in the same position. Should we bully Madrid into lending us Kaka, stick Ireland on the bench, because, you know, Kaka is better than Ireland, despite one of them actually having the connection to the club and the talent to play for us.
I like this summer, we're buying playerrs that will take us up a level, players that still have something to prove and players who have time to become affiliated and attached to the club. Not only that but it seems our best academy graduates still have thier place in the team. Cook made it clear he wants to keep this club connected to the community and the fans, yet some of our fans just seemingly want to see a FM style team, which, imo would lead to failure long term.
This.....all fookin day
Terry is a leader of the highest order, a huge name in football....and a complete twa t...also of the highest order!!
in terry we'd be buying a ready made combative defender, one who has a will to win in the uglyest possible way, hes an arse, and i for one was gutted when he got the england armband, why the hell would anyone want this thug to be the main guy of our country id never know.
recently hes grown on me....but we'd be over lookin our players like nedum and richards....wheres the fun in buying a ready made guy than watching our young stars grow??
i understand what you are saying but how do you know they will grow any further?
Not only that but,I've seen enough young players at City who are very good. Very,very good and we've still not won fuck all for decades. Forgive me if I sound like one of these obnoxious,JCL gloryhunting bastards but,I've watched City for 30+ years now and, Now we have the opportunity to compete with the big boys at the highest level I'd be astounded if we didn't pull out a lot of stops to get the silverware we've all craved for years. There's an element of alarm we'll overlook the academy,the homegrown etc yada yada but you need to remember MCFC have spoke up to appease these doubts and stressed the importance of the kids at city and the development of the future. So in conclusion,If Terry arrives,it's a *thumbs up* from meleewill31 said:Bluebeer said:GStar said:I think the fact people are willing to cast aside aside talent and potential for a "quick fix" says more about what our new found wealth has done to sections of our supporters.
Tevez doesn't feel he's getting his oppourtunity at utd, decides to move on - he's a legend.
Sturridge doesn't think he'll get a chance at City, has ambtion to challenge for honours, moves on - he's a greedy bastad.
I mean the hypocrasy is so plain its laughable that people just don't see it.
John Terry has been an exceptional CB, and im sure he'll continue to be so. But he absolutely no reason to come to City other than picking up even more than his current £100k plus.
So, where do we draw the line? Should we bid for Ferdinand too; because he's arguably an even better player in the same position. Should we bully Madrid into lending us Kaka, stick Ireland on the bench, because, you know, Kaka is better than Ireland, despite one of them actually having the connection to the club and the talent to play for us.
I like this summer, we're buying playerrs that will take us up a level, players that still have something to prove and players who have time to become affiliated and attached to the club. Not only that but it seems our best academy graduates still have thier place in the team. Cook made it clear he wants to keep this club connected to the community and the fans, yet some of our fans just seemingly want to see a FM style team, which, imo would lead to failure long term.
This.....all fookin day
Terry is a leader of the highest order, a huge name in football....and a complete twa t...also of the highest order!!
in terry we'd be buying a ready made combative defender, one who has a will to win in the uglyest possible way, hes an arse, and i for one was gutted when he got the england armband, why the hell would anyone want this thug to be the main guy of our country id never know.
recently hes grown on me....but we'd be over lookin our players like nedum and richards....wheres the fun in buying a ready made guy than watching our young stars grow??
i understand what you are saying but how do you know they will grow any further?
SosaFC said:gh_mcfc said:didnt some one mention terry after we signed barry. Someone who was speaking to the england lads after one of the recent internationals. i think he mentioned Barry joking about who would be captain
yeah it was some lad at the kazkhstan match and said he was speaking to some of the players .. he said he asked terry if he would be coming and he just laughed and said nothing .. still if it is true .. wouldn't want him here .. he is chelsea through and through .. same as gerard at the dippers .. just wouldn't seem right .. would he give the same performances as he does for chelsea if he came here .. doubt it
BLUENATIC said:Not only that but,I've seen enough young players at City who are very good. Very,very good and we've still not won fuck all for decades. Forgive me if I sound like one of these obnoxious,JCL gloryhunting bastards but,I've watched City for 30+ years now and, Now we have the opportunity to compete with the big boys at the highest level I'd be astounded if we didn't pull out a lot of stops to get the silverware we've all craved for years. There's an element of alarm we'll overlook the academy,the homegrown etc yada yada but you need to remember MCFC have spoke up to appease these doubts and stressed the importance of the kids at city and the development of the future. So in conclusion,If Terry arrives,it's a *thumbs up* from me
BLUENATIC said:Not only that but,I've seen enough young players at City who are very good. Very,very good and we've still not won fuck all for decades. Forgive me if I sound like one of these obnoxious,JCL gloryhunting bastards but,I've watched City for 30+ years now and, Now we have the opportunity to compete with the big boys at the highest level I'd be astounded if we didn't pull out a lot of stops to get the silverware we've all craved for years. There's an element of alarm we'll overlook the academy,the homegrown etc yada yada but you need to remember MCFC have spoke up to appease these doubts and stressed the importance of the kids at city and the development of the future. So in conclusion,If Terry arrives,it's a *thumbs up* from meleewill31 said:Bluebeer said:GStar said:I think the fact people are willing to cast aside aside talent and potential for a "quick fix" says more about what our new found wealth has done to sections of our supporters.
Tevez doesn't feel he's getting his oppourtunity at utd, decides to move on - he's a legend.
Sturridge doesn't think he'll get a chance at City, has ambtion to challenge for honours, moves on - he's a greedy bastad.
I mean the hypocrasy is so plain its laughable that people just don't see it.
John Terry has been an exceptional CB, and im sure he'll continue to be so. But he absolutely no reason to come to City other than picking up even more than his current £100k plus.
So, where do we draw the line? Should we bid for Ferdinand too; because he's arguably an even better player in the same position. Should we bully Madrid into lending us Kaka, stick Ireland on the bench, because, you know, Kaka is better than Ireland, despite one of them actually having the connection to the club and the talent to play for us.
I like this summer, we're buying playerrs that will take us up a level, players that still have something to prove and players who have time to become affiliated and attached to the club. Not only that but it seems our best academy graduates still have thier place in the team. Cook made it clear he wants to keep this club connected to the community and the fans, yet some of our fans just seemingly want to see a FM style team, which, imo would lead to failure long term.
This.....all fookin day
Terry is a leader of the highest order, a huge name in football....and a complete twa t...also of the highest order!!
in terry we'd be buying a ready made combative defender, one who has a will to win in the uglyest possible way, hes an arse, and i for one was gutted when he got the england armband, why the hell would anyone want this thug to be the main guy of our country id never know.
recently hes grown on me....but we'd be over lookin our players like nedum and richards....wheres the fun in buying a ready made guy than watching our young stars grow??
i understand what you are saying but how do you know they will grow any further?
Bluebeer said:BLUENATIC said:Not only that but,I've seen enough young players at City who are very good. Very,very good and we've still not won fuck all for decades. Forgive me if I sound like one of these obnoxious,JCL gloryhunting bastards but,I've watched City for 30+ years now and, Now we have the opportunity to compete with the big boys at the highest level I'd be astounded if we didn't pull out a lot of stops to get the silverware we've all craved for years. There's an element of alarm we'll overlook the academy,the homegrown etc yada yada but you need to remember MCFC have spoke up to appease these doubts and stressed the importance of the kids at city and the development of the future. So in conclusion,If Terry arrives,it's a *thumbs up* from me
you obnoxious, JCL gloryhunting bastard :)
for me, if we keep over looking the academy.....it means all the "yada yada" was bullshite just to make the board sound good.