Southampton (A) - Carabao Cup | Post Match Thread

[Gumzy97]

It feels like some of our players this season are not listening to Pep or giving their all for him on the pitch. He's been constantly on about body language and attitude in press conferences alot more than usual, feels like that's aimed at some players in the locker room that are not listening to him. Hope I'm wrong

 

[eyalluvitt]

Southampton work ethic fantastic, we did not have one shot on target and each and every player were below par.

They wanted more, worked harder, won their individual battles and seemed to bully us all over the pitch. Oh and those kits and the ones at the City store need soaking in petrol and throwing on a giant bonfire.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Pretty philosophical. Deliberately abstained from looking at this thread until now.
Now we can talk about this player and that player. We can talk about formations. We can talk about Pep's choices.
It may be partly about all that, but not essentially. Sorry, but in the final analysis, it isn't.
It's about hunger. And complacency. We can all look at ourselves, as well as the players and manager. How hungry are we, even as fans? I've got to hold my hand up, and in my heart of hearts, I realise that last night in the lead-up I was thinking, “Ok, business as usual, routine victory, maybe one or two sticky moments, but on to Wembley. Another trophy. Here we go. How can we lose to Southampton?”
At the final whistle I honestly thought — to myself, about myself — “You deserved that, mate. You were asking for it.”

We can lose to anybody.

You achieve something, you relax. It's human. You achieve many things, and you start to feel pretty good about yourself. You look back at what you've done, and say “Hey, that's some pretty hot shit, eh?” Once you do that, you're dead.

It is incredibly difficult to stay hungry. It is incredibly difficult to stave off complacency. That's why to this day I don't think what was done in 2019 has been appreciated for what it was. I will, though, briefly break my rule and mention one player. We had one player on the pitch with qualities of hunger and leadership that are extremely rare, and I'm afraid we haven't really found a replacement. That man was Vincent Kompany.

 

[ShedDweller]

It feels like some of our players this season are not listening to Pep or giving their all for him on the pitch. He's been constantly on about body language and attitude in press conferences alot more than usual, feels like that's aimed at some players in the locker room that are not listening to him. Hope I'm wrong

If that is the case then expect a clearout. The club will back Pep. They know the score, to play for someone like Pep you have to have the correct attitude, its probably more important than outright ability (re Zinch, Delph etc).

If anyone's slacking they will be out

 

[Fiftyyearsandcounting]

What colour did we play in tonight if people are saying it was a clash with Southampton? They play in red/white don’t they? I understood our third kit is that horrible sickly greeny/yellow with a black sort of stripe?

Because of the colour clash, it was often difficult to know which player had won the ball in a close tackle. It didn't help with the commentator failing to identify the players but preferring to waffle on with meaningless stats.

 

[ShedDweller]

Activate Lavia's buyback clause, maybe?

It illustrates the issue, Lavia was better than Philips and bullied him all game.
Its up to Philips to show he's better.
If not he'll be moving on soon (especially if he's got a poor attitude, not that we actually know that for sure).
Turning up overweight after the WC was pretty poor all the same

 

[Blue Maverick]

I know but we all love and trust pep, he will deliver.

But will the players, something is off, maybe they don’t buy into what Pep is trying to do at the moment his formations, rotations etc. I’ve said it before they might need a clear the air now before the derby to get out of their system otherwise the season may well fade away.

 

[00 years]

Grealish, Phillips and Gomez are not good enough for City , not sure why we got Phillips to static Grealish was a funny one at the time as he wasn’t all that when I watched him previously ,on a lighter note we will smash them lot on Sat now especially after last nights result.

 

[eyalluvitt]

When you look at how poor Philips looks it just shows how valuable players like Ferna and Rodri are. If Philips can't cut it this season I reckon we will be in for another MF like Rice (although he may be overpriced and we might look for better value overseas).
Its clearly not easy to find these players. Bellingham is probably the standout with Rice just below that level, there's going to be a frenzy for those two.

My god we were blessed to get Ferna, he came in and never really put a foot wrong for us, OK occasionaly done for pace when filling in at CH but what a player. Same goes for Rodri tbf. He's never looked out of place.

Philips just looks like a fish out of water.

He was excellent at Leeds, one of the best, most consistent midfielders in the prem over the last few seasons, the stand out England player at the Euros. One bad half when nobody in lime/black covered themselves in glory isn’t going to define his City career. Let’s pray he comes on towards the end at OT to solidify our 3 nil lead

 

[Fiftyyearsandcounting]

What time do we kick off. !!

Every 10 minutes (attrib: Alan Ball -1996 season).