Southampton (A) Post Match Thread

citytill1die84 said:
Read last part wrong my bad.

Keeper get a slight touch of ball but takes Sane out who had a chance of putting ball into net guess what comes next?.......
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so why didnt sane appeal and why does he say it wasn't a penalty?
 
I.bleed.blue said:
Have you ever thought that the space opening up in that last 20 minutes or so is a direct result of the us controlling the ball and having the other team running themselves into the ground. Of course it would be brilliant to be a coup,e of gaols up after 20 minutes every game but it is just not feasible. You're watching a different team and a different game to me. Enjoy and be excited about the future.
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I'm very excited for city...but what you are saying makes no sense in terms of TODAY'S game.

Quite simply, the game opened up because kompany scored from a set piece. Going down 0-1 like this forced the saints to come out of the gates. My point is that you cannot always depend on opening games up in such circumstances(city have never scored reliably from corners/set pieces except maybe direct free kicks from yaya), and the joy of winning 3-0 should not overshadow the glaring need to be realistic about city's big problems breaking defensive teams down from open play.

Good result, great day for kompany and the fans, but largely papering over some huge cracks from prior to the vinny goal.

On the positive note, given the defense looked more solid and some big games are coming up against more attacking teams, hopefully that means city will be afforded the space to hurt the likes of arsenal and the rags...Vinny needs to stay fit until the end of the season mind.
 
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Just seen the penalty appeal for the first time. Super slow mo says correct decision but fuck me, I had to see about four different angles before I was convinced. Not sure how the ref spotted it in real time.
 
Bluearmy said:
Can I draw your attention to penalty we gave away a few weeks ago against Liverpool. Clichy touches the ball, which goes out of reach of Frimino, but then there is contact between them and the ref gives a penalty, despite the face hits the player t Frimino was never reaching the ball after the tackle...

Today, while the ball brushes the keepers fingers it doesn't divert the ball away, and his outstretched arm brings Sane down which stops sane scoring. How can you possibly say no penalty??

It also highlights how differently we are reffed, compared to other teams. If that was The rags today, a penalty would have been given and reversely not in the Liverpool incident.
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think i said it at the time.....clichy did get a touch on it you are right......now i cant remember if he hits firming first or gets the ball first ....

its always going to be different when a keeper is involved as well
 
Rammy Blue said:
Just think about it Simon for one minute.

Even if Forster gets the slightest touch, Leroy would have still got to that ball and slotted it in EXCEPT for Forster taking his legs away. Graham Poll cleared this up from the studio, it's a penalty.
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so why doesn't sane appeal then and why does he say it wasn't a penalty?

i couldn't care less as in my view it aint a penalty and neither is it in sane's view or they refs at the time.......people need to get over the ref stuff on here...mistakes are made ( id not think this was one) and thats what makes the game exciting as there is sometimes human error.

You don't know Sane would have still got the ball either...you presume
 
aguero93:20 said:
True. If we could match our away form next season and bring fortress Etihad back we'd be looking at 90+ points though, would be nice.
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Totally agree. It's that scary and this being City of course, I daren't say how good things might get as typical City is always lurking around the next corner, or in the next bush!!. Can we become the best team on the planet? Where's the whisky bottle I need more alcohol!!
 
pride in battle said:
It was a clear penalty
Any referee would agree
He fouled Sane on the 'second phase'
Yes he touched the ball but cleaned Sane out, PENALTY
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any ref....... except the one on the pitch.... !!!!

thats all that maters....

People on here love to have the excuse of the ref...it happens even before a ball is kicked. its like a protection mechanism that kicks in even days before the game...people start "betting" on certain ref's giving dodgy decisions and saying its why we might lose/or not win. They do this cause its easier/nicer/safer to make an excuse and get that excuse in so they can then hark back to it and say "i told you so" instead of admitting at those times that the team just wasn't good enough on that one occasion (which some never can)....that is a hard thing to do for some and impossible for a few...

Of course wrong decisions can be made and are made but thats the beauty of the game....its still open to human error and its a small part of why its so exciting....

Like i also said in reply to someone else...the keeper gets a touch and because its a keeper it aint a foul (if an outfield player had done it it probably would have been a foul) but keepers get a different set of "rules" (unwritten) as well.

People just need to man up a bit on this subject and accept its part of the game.
 
Bluemanc100 said:
The key point is that the referee cannot have spotted that in real time so he either chose to ignore what he thought was a foul and penalty or somebody watching the replay on screen told him via the comms it wasn't a pen.... I'll go with the former... he chose not to give it as he wasn't sure or because it's City
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he may have chose not to give it cause he wasn't sure....and that is still the right decision.

he may have chosen not to give it cause Sane doesn't appeal......I like that a player of ours decided not to try and con the ref (as plenty of others do)

I wonder what people would have said if it was Ashley Young in the exact same position.....the outcry on here would have been defending (and he is someone who would have gone down there and appealed for it)
 
simon23 said:
so why doesn't sane appeal then and why does he say it wasn't a penalty?

i couldn't care less as in my view it aint a penalty and neither is it in sane's view or they refs at the time.......people need to get over the ref stuff on here...mistakes are made ( id not think this was one) and thats what makes the game exciting as there is sometimes human error.

You don't know Sane would have still got the ball either...you presume
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Jesus wept man, you're incredible.

I'll leave it there, there's no reasoning with some people.
 
simon23 said:
any ref....... except the one on the pitch.... !!!!

thats all that maters....

People on here love to have the excuse of the ref...it happens even before a ball is kicked. its like a protection mechanism that kicks in even days before the game...people start "betting" on certain ref's giving dodgy decisions and saying its why we might lose/or not win. They do this cause its easier/nicer/safer to make an excuse and get that excuse in so they can then hark back to it and say "i told you so" instead of admitting at those times that the team just wasn't good enough on that one occasion (which some never can)....that is a hard thing to do for some and impossible for a few...

Of course wrong decisions can be made and are made but thats the beauty of the game....its still open to human error and its a small part of why its so exciting....

Like i also said in reply to someone else...the keeper gets a touch and because its a keeper it aint a foul (if an outfield player had done it it probably would have been a foul) but keepers get a different set of "rules" (unwritten) as well.

People just need to man up a bit on this subject and accept its part of the game.
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And after seeing numerous replays (summat the ref hasnt got the luxury of) I still say he made the right decision , the keeper does get a slight touch on the ball and the combination of that and Sanes touch changes the direction of the ball , which no doubt made up the refs mind
 
Blueknows said:
And after seeing numerous replays (summat the ref hasnt got the luxury of) I still say he made the right decision , the keeper does get a slight touch on the ball and the combination of that and Sanes touch changes the direction of the ball , which no doubt made up the refs mind
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i think he made right decision as well but thats the beauty of football isn't it...its why its so exciting.

I do think there should be more physical contact allowed in the game however....i think its got a bit ridiculous as you can barely tackle any more
 
simon23 said:
i think he made right decision as well but thats the beauty of football isn't it...its why its so exciting.

I do think there should be more physical contact allowed in the game however....i think its got a bit ridiculous as you can barely tackle any more
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Agree on tackling , how many times recently have you seen someone make a great tackle winning the ball for the ref to blow for a foul ? and then for the pundits to say " he may have won the ball but he made contact on the follow through"
 
Blueknows said:
Agree on tackling , how many times recently have you seen someone make a great tackle winning the ball for the ref to blow for a foul ? and then for the pundits to say " he may have won the ball but he made contact on the follow through"
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every game you watch regardless of the team
 
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