Southport | 9 year old girl confirmed as third victim

[carlosthejackal]

I get what you’re saying, but surely understanding the attackers background and potentially where they are from is important in understanding why they could have done something so terrible? (That’s for white British people as well)

It was very relevant in the Manchester arena attack.

We don’t know the full details, but A lot of attacks could have been prevented as often social services or the police know about the attacker.

Brady and Hindley
Lucy Letby
Ian Huntley
Thomas Hamilton
Venables and Thompson
Beverly Allitt
Robert Black
John Taylor
The list could go on and on , sadly events like this have always happened worldwide and will continue to do so .

 

[BlueHammer85]

police have called for the speculation regarding the identity of the alleged attacker online to end.

"A name has been shared on social media in connection with the suspect in the incident in Southport," a Merseyside Police statement read.

"This name is incorrect and we would urge people not to speculate on details of the incident while the investigation is ongoing."

Speculation has been rife on social media since the attack yesterday.

All we know of the suspect is that he is a 17-year-old boy from nearby Banks, although he was born in Cardiff.

 

[Ric]

truly awful:

Heartbreaking.

 

[jimharri]

Utterly senseless.

 

[i kne albert davy]

truly awful:

Sickening

 

[red 2 hats]

truly awful:

I've genuinely got tears in my eyes reading that, those poor kids didn't stand a chance against this evil twat.

 

[splinter]

I honestly feel like drinking myself into oblivion..I'm 50 and I wish I was 80 and not long left of this world..no to long ago I felt a bit upset I never had children, fast forward a few years I'm glad I didn't

 

[Rory Bluelow]

But isn't it confirmed he was born in Cardiff and moved to the Stockport area at 6? - His parents are from Rwanda, but by all accounts he was born in the UK. So he is not a migrant. I'm the first generation of my family born in the UK too, I'm not a migrant.

If these are the facts then I don't think migration is really a big talking point in this case. Makes about as much sense as blaming the Welsh because he was born in Cardiff.

Who knows what his reason was. Obviously he's an evil ****. Is he just a lad with a screw loose? Was he radicalised by people? We don't really know yet but I don't think migration should be the focal point of this when it seems he was born and raised in the UK, just because his parents were from somewhere else.

There's certainly conversations needed about migration but it's not at all linked to this tragedy.

I can’t see him being “radicalised” as there’s very few Muslims in Rwanda. He’s most probably a Christian (at least nominally). Doubtless an evil **** who doesn’t deserve to draw another breath. Probably despises the country he was born in and likely alienated and never integrated. I’m hoping we get the facts in due course.

 

[jimharri]

Maybe it's the CFOC in me, but I'm guessing the suspect's legal team will be working on the "mental illness" line.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I cannot speak for everyone but police in general get frustrated at the 'revolving door' effect when it comes to a lot of 'crimes'.

Personally I believe in stromg sentencing and supported use of police powers (S&S for example) but the real answers long term can only come from addressing a whole range of socio-economic factors/inequalities, erosion of life chances that we are wintnessing.

Couple with that of course you need a well resourced, effective police force but its only part of the puzzle.

Doesn't change anything pertaining to yesterday's appalling events but when I was a civil servant, I watched a virtual meeting involving the head of Ofsted, a chief constable, someone from the MoJ and someone else. The thing I remember from that was that there was often a linear pattern.

• Social services would be involved with a problem family.
• The education system could spot kids who were troublesome, and likely to remain so.
• The local police would see kids who they knew were trouble.
• Those kids would often end up in the justice system.

The earlier you intervene, the better chance you have of mitigating problems but if the kids have a family issue, that can be difficult if not impossible. There's a whole element of youth training/education/employment as well.

The other end of the process is when they're in the justice system, and there are opportunities to intervene and remediate. But it all requires joined-up thinking and adequate resources.