Spiritulists........yay or nay?

[Damocles]

I was going to, but in the interests of friendship with another user, I put it aside.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

Ah, that's fair enough then. I've had fall-outs over this, I know how emotive a subject some people find it, myself included. It's not worth losing a friend just to prove a point.

 

[stonerblue]

There are some that do it for free though, or more often for a charitable donation.

to which charity, help for retired psychics?

Its on a par with homeopathy, heaven and shampoo ad's for fruitloopery.

I'm with you on the homeopathy, but for what it's worth, I've had several readings/meetings with mediums and never paid anything. It's also free to visit Spiritualist services in church - usually just a voluntary donation/offering like any other church.

i suppose you want me to listen to queen on me i=pod as well........

 

[SWP's back]

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[OurCity]

Well, I've had this conversation before and I visited many of them over the years and they've all failed. Mainly because I've read the books on cold reading too so know their tricks and how to answer their questions.

Anything that says "you must believe in it for it to work" is already placed in my file of "things that are probably nonsense"

But if a medium told you a personal fact about your past, then that's not a question of faith. It's either true or it isn't and if it's true, then what? Do you deny it, or think it's some kind of Derren Brown mind trick? You've probably not been lucky enough to see one of the small percentage of genuine mediums.

Most readings I've had were complete bull too.

 

[BulgarianPride]

Well, I've had this conversation before and I visited many of them over the years and they've all failed. Mainly because I've read the books on cold reading too so know their tricks and how to answer their questions.

Anything that says "you must believe in it for it to work" is already placed in my file of "things that are probably nonsense"

I take it you feel the same away about hypnosis?

 

[SWP's back]

Well, I've had this conversation before and I visited many of them over the years and they've all failed. Mainly because I've read the books on cold reading too so know their tricks and how to answer their questions.

Anything that says "you must believe in it for it to work" is already placed in my file of "things that are probably nonsense"

But if a medium told you a personal fact about your past, then that's not a question of faith. It's either true or it isn't and if it's true, then what? Do you deny it, or think it's some kind of Derren Brown mind trick? You've probably not been lucky enough to see one of the small percentage of genuine mediums.

More than likely, I've been watching Derren for as long as he's been on the tele. When I watch now, me and the mrs hit pase on Sky + and generally know what the answer will be before he says it as you can pick up on the points he has panted etc.

 

[Damocles]

Well, I've had this conversation before and I visited many of them over the years and they've all failed. Mainly because I've read the books on cold reading too so know their tricks and how to answer their questions.

Anything that says "you must believe in it for it to work" is already placed in my file of "things that are probably nonsense"

But if a medium told you a personal fact about your past, then that's not a question of faith. It's either true or it isn't and if it's true, then what? Do you deny it, or think it's some kind of Derren Brown mind trick? You've probably not been lucky enough to see one of the small percentage of genuine mediums.

Genuine mediums don't exist. It's a contradiction in terms.

And you seem to forget Occam's Razor. If a medium did tell me a fact about my past, I'd presume that they looked me up rather than taking the almighty logical leap to the idea that they can speak to dead people. This is exactly what I mean by social conditioning. If I told you a fact about your past, would you think that I could speak to dead people? No. The only reason that you think that is because the person doing it suggested it.

 

[stonerblue]

Well, I've had this conversation before and I visited many of them over the years and they've all failed. Mainly because I've read the books on cold reading too so know their tricks and how to answer their questions.

Anything that says "you must believe in it for it to work" is already placed in my file of "things that are probably nonsense"

But if a medium told you a personal fact about your past, then that's not a question of faith. It's either true or it isn't and if it's true, then what? Do you deny it, or think it's some kind of Derren Brown mind trick? You've probably not been lucky enough to see one of the small percentage of genuine mediums.

More than likely, I've been watching Derren for as long as he's been on the tele. When I watch now, me and the mrs hit pase on Sky + and generally know what the answer will be before he says it as you can pick up on the points he has panted etc.

and they say romance is dead..

 

[SWP's back]

But if a medium told you a personal fact about your past, then that's not a question of faith. It's either true or it isn't and if it's true, then what? Do you deny it, or think it's some kind of Derren Brown mind trick? You've probably not been lucky enough to see one of the small percentage of genuine mediums.

More than likely, I've been watching Derren for as long as he's been on the tele. When I watch now, me and the mrs hit pase on Sky + and generally know what the answer will be before he says it as you can pick up on the points he has panted etc.

and they say romance is dead..

I didn't set the scene very well, we usually do it whilst sat in an old broze bath, filled with red rose petals in front of roaring open fire, in between reading each other sonnets we have written for each other that day.