Spurs (A) | PL | Post-Match Thread

argyle said:
with our recruitment being hit and miss recently I think it will take more than one summer to re-build.
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lazerblue said:
pep's ready for a re build, next season we will be awesome, expect big changes, ITK
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Watching this unfold with Haaland I think is doing some serious damage to our ability to recruit the very top players. Haaland will be telling Bellingham he'd be nuts to come here...
 
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waspish said:
Yep we ain’t been at our best we are second! Hoping to win the fa cup or champs league and finish top four
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For any of that to happen we need a massive upturn in form and for Pep to sort out whatever unrest is happening behind the scenes. People can deny nothings wrong but clearly something is.
 
Anyone confident about Leipzig? They’re now 16 games unbeaten and haven’t lost since 17th September. They are going to be worth a punt I reckon.
 
Loverdoodle said:
Yeah I can’t see the club ownership letting him go i was just reading the thread. Not counting you guys out either as you correctly noted a lot to play for with two matches against us. Why do you think as a City there seems to be a number of guys having poor seasons at same time?
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Law of averages.
 
OffertonBlue said:
We're not getting outplayed by anyone, but we're getting outthought. Opposition are quite happy for us to have the vast majority of possession as we seldom do much with it. We've been playing teams who park the bus for a few seasons now, hence one of the reasons we let Sterling go (as defences sat deep and there was no space to run into) and bought Grealish (who holds the ball against packed defences well and wins lots of free kicks around the box).

We're not coping well with time wasting tactics, niggly and hard fouls and gullable officiating. We let opponents and officials disrupt our composure, when we should rise above it and it should increase our determination. Time wasting never gets fully added on (like it did at the world cup) so if we go behind then we'll struggle (apart from Spurs at home).

We're starting too slow in an early attempt to control the game. Apart from against the rags at home when we went for it in the first half, we're quite content to control first halves instead of winning the game in the first half. We've scored more goals in the second halves than any other club in the country. We've also wasted more first halves than any other club in the country.

We've become too risk averse. Always the safe pass, usually sideways or backwards. We've become too ponderous and predictable. If I'm the opposition I'd love our back 4 to be passing to each other and our midfield passing back to them and our forwards isolated and frustrated. Thats's about 90% of the our possession. Possession outside the box is great when we're ahead, so lets do it when we're ahead....not when we're level or losing. This also applies to passes around the edge of the box. Why not have a few shots from there occasionally eh?

We don't mix it up enough. Same old, same old, rinse and repeat. Lets try a few long balls when we can (Eddie is capable but has been instructed not to) and whilst mentioning Eddie (love the guy), can you please try to save a shot now and then please. His career is starting to mimmick Bravo's if he's not careful and is in danger of being benched for Ortega. And whilst we're at it, if Kev ain't playing a through ball, then who is? No through balls to Haaland when he starts his run is a complete waste of his main strength. Any young talented player would rightly be frustrated in that situation.

We have the players, the experience and the manager to yet make this season a successful one (again thankfully). Sorting most of the above out would go a long way towards achieving it.
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Yes, good post, first 3 paras bang on, though I think what you say in the first is reason for your last two points.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
Anyone confident about Leipzig? They’re now 16 games unbeaten and haven’t lost since 17th September. They are going to be worth a punt I reckon.
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Fantastic team. Watched them dismantle Schalke recently. Need to play a very strong team and be on form in both legs in my opinion.
 
WestGorton said:
Just the flow of energy. After 4 out of 5 titles and changes in personnel it was probably predictable. We aren't going away any time soon whoever wins the league this season.
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Fair enough also when you consider WC season and your squad has so many internationals and all those trophies and cups, i mean no one can win everything every year. A lot more has been asked of your squad and still is because you guys win so much. Again not counting you guys out at all not this year or afterwards just wanted City fans take, pretty much what i think also
 
supposedly pep and city don’t keep players when they want to leave but bernardo is in 4th window wanting to leave yet he starts over bruyne?! in important game?!
 
JewelZee said:
Watching this unfold with Haaland I think is doing some serious damage to our ability to recruit the very top players. Haaland will be telling Bellingham he'd be nuts to come here...
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No he won't if anything he'd want him here tomorrow as Bellingham would pass to him!
 
Loverdoodle said:
Arsenal fan here, not here to gloat after all we lost as well. Just my 3rd party perspective but a lot of your players seem to simultaneously be off colour. Typically, when that happens in modern football it is the manager that is fired. I still think you guys got a good shot because we are inexperienced and over reliant on Partey. That being said, i just like to ask since i am no expert on your clubs dealings if the season is disappointing would Pep be in serious danger? And if Pep goes who would you guys want?
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I don't think Its about who we want as Manager, for me i think Pep is a bit fed up with it all, press slagging the club etc, I think he feels f'k this, The players then get irate and start being prima dona pussies, and it all looks pretty poor. Tbh, i think the fans loyalty over the years - 125 years there or thereabouts, is the only consistency. I think we have had our current good run .... say 15 years. Possibly we may come again, its cyclical, great in late 60's, had a great team late 70's big Mal f'ked that up, Howard got us back on track (Niall Quinn brace to win at your place was the one for me, cold night mind you) then take over changed us, BUT we will drop off, possibly for many years, it's feasible. One thing that will be consistent = we have one of the genuinely most loyal and largest fan bases in the country (despite what social 'meeja 'try and portray) ...whoever takes over and whatever division we reside...just part of being a City Fan...we will be here in a 100 managers time be it Billy McNeil or a Pep
 
sutty66 said:
supposedly pep and city don’t keep players when they want to leave but bernardo is in 4th window wanting to leave yet he starts over bruyne?! in important game?!
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City say if you want to leave then get a club to bring an offer.

Bernardo hasn't been able to do that as he wants a team like Barca - however they are skint.
 
Loverdoodle said:
Fair enough also when you consider WC season and your squad has so many internationals and all those trophies and cups, i mean no one can win everything every year. A lot more has been asked of your squad and still is because you guys win so much. Again not counting you guys out at all not this year or afterwards just wanted City fans take, pretty much what i think also
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Agreed. Many factors even disregarding the rumour factory. I am not going to lose sleep if Arsenal win it but it's imperative we finish above the rags as their giddyometer is off the scale.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
They do everything to please Pep, which also includes giving him the type of players he wants to play a certain way, regardless of name.

We are making stupid mistakes in the market, trying to replace legends.

£100m on Jack, £42m on Ake, £42m on Phillips, £16m on Akanji.

£200m on players who we either didn't need or wouldn't exactly miss if we had kept the money in the bank.

The problem is the first cycle under Pep still included Silva, Fern, Vinny, Sergio.

This next evolution is looking to players who are far removed from that talent and mindset.

And the ones who might have it in De Bruyne and Gundo are past their peaks.

I am more fearful that we can't evolve again with Pep at the helm, simply because he is wedded to a philosophy which may have also come to the end of its cycle.

Pep should have got himself a strong assistant in the summer, rather than a bunch of yes men.
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I've been very critical of Grealish recently but today is one of the few occasions where I fault sorry for him. He tried his arse off and never shyed away from the ball. He's been let down by his coach today.

As much as I love pep he's the issue. The players and system is all wrong. Nobody is comfortable with their shape or role. He has the best #9 and yet never gives him the ball.
 
I’d go with this line-up for the next month (with KDB and Foden rotated in when needed).

Get Bernardo in an old David Silva role (I thought that was why we bought him), looking for balls in to Haaland as early as he can. He’s incredible on the ball and can unlock defences but not when he’s restricted by having to stay wide or having to defend too much. Grealish attacking and affecting the game in the middle.

The full backs can sometimes come in to support CDM, but the CB’s stay in central defence and generally, the defence should give us a solid base.
 

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argyle said:
I'm as frustrated as anyone and wish Pep would drop the changes he has implemented, however I think those saying Pep needs to leave are being utterly ridiculous.
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i’m not saying leave… i’m saying he will walk…..
 
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