cyberblue said:Ok so now we need 20.000 extra fans if they come once every other game or 30,000 extra fans if they come once every 3 games where are they all coming from .load sof true blues have stopped going for one reason & another but you think there is a big demand i just dont see itblueparrot said:Tony Adcock said:I dont think anyone is expecting all games to sell out if we have 10K more seat. Thats not how it works. But for sure if had 10K extra seat do you think they would have been sold for certain games last season ???
damn right they would. And thats the point. We are losing out on ticket sales etc at certain games and therefore there is an opportunity to create more revenue if more seats were available.
The extra fans wont have to fork out £45 every week because it wont be the same 10000 every week , and they wont know they are being slagged off as tourists because they probably wont be people who come onto bluemoon or any other city forum. But you build before it becomes critical not after.
ell said:cyberblue said:Where the extra fans coming from .we might be "sold out" every week but there are still hundreds of empty seats most gamesChippy_boy said:If it's sold out for 99% of league games - which it is - that means we are losing ticket sales and season ticket sales right now.
We should expand it asap in my view. OK we won't fill it every week, but we will some weeks, and we will get more revenue. It's a no-brainer imho.
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The problem is they will not sell cheaper ticketssouthstander93 said:Also, as for the cheaper tickets in the event of expansion, a lot of the match day revenue is made on bar sales. Say on a carling cup game, each fan spends £10 on beer. 20k fans at £20 per ticket is £400,000 on tickets and £200,000 on bar sales, making a match day income of £600,000. However, 40k fans at £10 per ticket is £400,000 on tickets and £400,000 on bar sales, making a match day income of £800,000. Now I know not everyone will buy beer and all that stuff, but you get the idea. In my opinion, if the club does expand, it makes perfect sense to sell cheaper tickets to get the bums on the seats, and they can make the money on bar sales, food, and merchandise. If ADUG have a good business head on them, and considering how rich they are I imagine they do, then they will have figured this out.
I agree with this. I keep hearing people say "with the new TV deal and a potential salary cap, clubs will give us cheaper seats"
For some reason Ive got it in my head that every clubs board will have fatter pockets whilst mine get emptier.
Football fans never benefit and I cant see it with this.
southstander93 said:Also, as for the cheaper tickets in the event of expansion, a lot of the match day revenue is made on bar sales. Say on a carling cup game, each fan spends £10 on beer. 20k fans at £20 per ticket is £400,000 on tickets and £200,000 on bar sales, making a match day income of £600,000. However, 40k fans at £10 per ticket is £400,000 on tickets and £400,000 on bar sales, making a match day income of £800,000. Now I know not everyone will buy beer and all that stuff, but you get the idea. In my opinion, if the club does expand, it makes perfect sense to sell cheaper tickets to get the bums on the seats, and they can make the money on bar sales, food, and merchandise. If ADUG have a good business head on them, and considering how rich they are I imagine they do, then they will have figured this out.
southstander93 said:Also, as for the cheaper tickets in the event of expansion, a lot of the match day revenue is made on bar sales. Say on a carling cup game, each fan spends £10 on beer. 20k fans at £20 per ticket is £400,000 on tickets and £200,000 on bar sales, making a match day income of £600,000. However, 40k fans at £10 per ticket is £400,000 on tickets and £400,000 on bar sales, making a match day income of £800,000. Now I know not everyone will buy beer and all that stuff, but you get the idea. In my opinion, if the club does expand, it makes perfect sense to sell cheaper tickets to get the bums on the seats, and they can make the money on bar sales, food, and merchandise. If ADUG have a good business head on them, and considering how rich they are I imagine they do, then they will have figured this out.
blueparrot said:cyberblue said:Ok so now we need 20.000 extra fans if they come once every other game or 30,000 extra fans if they come once every 3 games where are they all coming from .load sof true blues have stopped going for one reason & another but you think there is a big demand i just dont see itblueparrot said:The extra fans wont have to fork out £45 every week because it wont be the same 10000 every week , and they wont know they are being slagged off as tourists because they probably wont be people who come onto bluemoon or any other city forum. But you build before it becomes critical not after.
we are not just talking about ' fans' some will be people who just want to see top teams and top players 'tourists ' if thats what you want to call them. But when in Barcelona i went to a game because I could, same as when I went to Boston I went to an NFL game. Its all extra income.
That seems rightGXCity said:blueparrot said:Tony Adcock said:I dont think anyone is expecting all games to sell out if we have 10K more seat. Thats not how it works. But for sure if had 10K extra seat do you think they would have been sold for certain games last season ???
damn right they would. And thats the point. We are losing out on ticket sales etc at certain games and therefore there is an opportunity to create more revenue if more seats were available.
The extra fans wont have to fork out £45 every week because it wont be the same 10000 every week , and they wont know they are being slagged off as tourists because they probably wont be people who come onto bluemoon or any other city forum. But you build before it becomes critical not after.
Out of interest if we sold out of available ST's in one day to Blue members, taking it up to 36k, how many more would we be able to sell? 6k?
That would mean we only need to sell, say, 4k additional tickets per game which is definately achievable given how quickly league games sell out
Very true. There's a huge number of people who call themselves City who no longer go, or who just follow City through the TV. Make the ground special, and you'd give these people an opportunity to go, and a bigger reason to go. Long term the club would have to be successful to keep the stadium fullStretford Born Blue said:How many of us know people who call themselves City fans who don't, for one reason or another currently do not go to matches but did so on a regular basis previously.
I've just added up 13 people off the top of my head (friends and family) who don't even have a bluecard membership.
If just 3 of them started going on a regular basis, lets say 7 or 8 times per season, and everyone of us knows a similar number of people, my guess is we would sell out 60000 easily for league games.
Make tickets cheap for cup games and bobs your uncle....??!!