The thing is that he's not lost the debate though, he's put a volley in the top corner metaphorically speaking. From what I've read with absolute delight he's very cleverly set out why, it appears difficult to engage you in any meaningful discussion, whilst making me nearly piss my pants wet with laughter by showing how the content of your posts seem woefully out of touch or bereft of comments sense.
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Sterling’s contract - three year extension confirmed
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meeesh
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Clearly there is a lot more history to this than I am aware of, so my apologies for chucking in my opinion without knowing all the facts.
Not going to make a further arse of myself by commenting any further on what Meesh has wrote as one thing I have learnt is make sure your aware of all the facts before commenting.
No facts to know,they are called opinions,and the conclusion you must have come to are that he has a problem with things I say,that's the top and bottom of it really
franksinatra
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Im sure he is probably his own biggest critic on this and is getting as much help as poss from Pep and Arteta et al, I just simply think that after being at the top table for so long, he shouldn't be having the yips in front of goal and will struggle to eradicate this now.
I agree I never think he will be a natural but possibly with his dribbling style (very close control) he often seems to have to dig out a shot rather than strike through a ball and so that maybe something the coaches can work on.
Silva always seemed to snatch at shots and chances but seems a lot more poised over the last year or so. It is the missing element to his game.
I don't think that's the only reason that people don't rate him as being world class.
I happen to think he is a very good player who had impressive stats last season but individually I don't think he's anywhere near world class.
How I see Sterling as a player is he's fast, his movement is excellent, he's good in tight spaces, an ok dribbler but his shooting technique still needs some work.
There are countless examples around Europe of players who fit this description who are not considered world class. I think that term is thrown around way too easily these days and people are getting a bit carried away because of two goals which are out of character for him bar Southampton last season.
In my humble opinion, Real Madrid would not be willing to pay 70 million plus for Sterling on top of big wages and the only way they'd take him is if he runs down his contract and they take him on a free.
Again, I think he's a very good player who has benefited hugely from Pep coming to City and should stay here if he wants to keep developing.
Yeah he isn’t world class but he is the step below that just because for me his only fault is the easy misses other than the he hasn’t it all I’d say his all around game is better than Ronaldo’s.
meeesh
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The thing is that he's not lost the debate though, he's put a volley in the top corner metaphorically speaking. From what I've read with absolute delight he's very cleverly set out why, it appears difficult to engage you in any meaningful discussion, whilst making me nearly piss my pants wet with laughter by showing how the content of your posts seem woefully out of touch or bereft of comments sense.
No debate won or lost yet,it's ongoing,and because he highlights past posts and events,or even has time to do that,speaks for itself really.
I have had many meaningful discussions on here,it happens,being on for almost 10 years,but don't let a good stat get in the way of a debate then eh ? Is that your feelings as well ?
You can continue pissing your pants all day long,that is of no concern to me,and as you have only been on a few months I suggest you take a look at the bigger picture before casting aspersions,but as you have had over 600 posts in 4 months it looks as though you might have plenty to say in the coming months as well anyway
balotelli's back pocket
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Lock him in a room for the next two weeks until he signs the fucker :-)
Clearly there is a lot more to this than I wa aware of, so my apologies for chucking in my opinion without knowing all the facts.
No problem whatsoever.
I would agree with this but also add that I dont think he will ever overcome this issue. Yes he is young, but in terms of experience he isn't and I cannot see Pep improving this aspect of his game. Yes, we all hope he could get that particular monkey off his back, but until he does imo he doesn't warrant a WC tag.
He had 161 premier league games before the start of last season, when the best he'd ever managed was 11 goals. He was experienced then, and undeniably he made massive improvements.
Mohamed Salah was 25 and had played 225 professional games before the start of last season, and he'd only managed more than 10 goals twice in 9 seasons. Then he hit 44 last year.
The one glimmer of hope is I think David Silva has improved his finishing during the time at the club and Sterling does have the commitment to Improve this side of his game.
It also appears from the All or Nothing doc it is something the likes of Arteta are working on with him.
Lets not forget he scored more goals last season than in the previous 2 combined. He has already shown himself able to take massive strides in improving his goal scoring. Last year he really improved his finishing at the far post (the documentary mentioned Arteta coaching him to attack the ball, not just let it hit his foot) and now this season we seem to be seeing much more danger from around the edge of the box.
He still needs to work on 1v1's because he always wants to go around the keeper and lacks the confidence to finish past the keeper - but what we've seen so far makes me think he can definitely improve on those because he essentially just needs to do the same finish around the keeper he pulled off vs. Arsenal and Newcastle.
He will always miss chances because that's the kind of player he is, but Salah missed more big chances than anyone else in the league last year and scored 33 goals. Some of the misses he had were worse than anything Sterling pulls off but no one cares because he already had a huge number of goals that season. Sterling only needs to cut down on the misses a bit and he'll be hitting 30 goals a season, which is pretty much the gold standard for forwards.
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he is the most underrated player in our squad, by some distance. pay him or regret it.I'm not his biggest fan,never have been,as plenty know on here,but would I like him to stay....yes
Would I be arsed if he left......no
However,the point of this thread is nothing to do with actual performances week in week out,it's about him (allegedly) wanting pay on a par with some of our world class players we are blessed to have.
If you can look yourself in the mirror and convince yourself that Sterling IS world class,then you have every right to argue he should be paid what he wants,but the other side of the fence,me and countless others,don't believe he is,and therefore shouldn't be.
From a business side of things,the time to sell is now,if that's what it comes to,because once his pace has gone,he's finished.
That is what I've been saying all along about him really,but we do have other and arguably better options available to us now as well,which again,some seem to disagree with.
Graceyboy
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No problem whatsoever.
He had 161 premier league games before the start of last season, when the best he'd ever managed was 11 goals. He was experienced then, and undeniably he made massive improvements.
Mohamed Salah was 25 and had played 225 professional games before the start of last season, and he'd only managed more than 10 goals twice in 9 seasons. Then he hit 44 last year.
Lets not forget he scored more goals last season than in the previous 2 combined. He has already shown himself able to take massive strides in improving his goal scoring. Last year he really improved his finishing at the far post (the documentary mentioned Arteta coaching him to attack the ball, not just let it hit his foot) and now this season we seem to be seeing much more danger from around the edge of the box.
He still needs to work on 1v1's because he always wants to go around the keeper and lacks the confidence to finish past the keeper - but what we've seen so far makes me think he can definitely improve on those because he essentially just needs to do the same finish around the keeper he pulled off vs. Arsenal and Newcastle.
He will always miss chances because that's the kind of player he is, but Salah missed more big chances than anyone else in the league last year and scored 33 goals. Some of the misses he had were worse than anything Sterling pulls off but no one cares because he already had a huge number of goals that season. Sterling only needs to cut down on the misses a bit and he'll be hitting 30 goals a season, which is pretty much the gold standard for forwards.
but if he changed the way he ran, wouldn't that improve his finishing? ;-)
franksinatra
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No problem whatsoever.
He had 161 premier league games before the start of last season, when the best he'd ever managed was 11 goals. He was experienced then, and undeniably he made massive improvements.
Mohamed Salah was 25 and had played 225 professional games before the start of last season, and he'd only managed more than 10 goals twice in 9 seasons. Then he hit 44 last year.
Lets not forget he scored more goals last season than in the previous 2 combined. He has already shown himself able to take massive strides in improving his goal scoring. Last year he really improved his finishing at the far post (the documentary mentioned Arteta coaching him to attack the ball, not just let it hit his foot) and now this season we seem to be seeing much more danger from around the edge of the box.
He still needs to work on 1v1's because he always wants to go around the keeper and lacks the confidence to finish past the keeper - but what we've seen so far makes me think he can definitely improve on those because he essentially just needs to do the same finish around the keeper he pulled off vs. Arsenal and Newcastle.
He will always miss chances because that's the kind of player he is, but Salah missed more big chances than anyone else in the league last year and scored 33 goals. Some of the misses he had were worse than anything Sterling pulls off but no one cares because he already had a huge number of goals that season. Sterling only needs to cut down on the misses a bit and he'll be hitting 30 goals a season, which is pretty much the gold standard for forwards.
I think more than his finishing he was so much better, more aggressive at getting into those positions where he was likely to score and as highlighted the back post being particularly fruitful for his goal tally.
One on ones the ball seems to often be under his feel (probably due to his dribbling style) and that is definitely something that can be coached though pressure and instinct may still result in it being a trait.