Stoke V City Post Match Discussion Thread [Merged]

[Anonymous]

Mancini isn't good enough for these players.Bring on: van Gaal, Mourinho, Guardiola, Capello and other top managers, we have enough money.

We will never be champions till he is here.

are you a city fan ? I dont think that you supported us when we were shit, hopefully you never go to games or actually support us

 

[Blue Haze]

Capello? Fuck that. What a disaster that would be.

 

[Lucky13]

Mancini isn't good enough for these players.Bring on: van Gaal, Mourinho, Guardiola, Capello and other top managers, we have enough money.

We will never be champions till he is here.

are you a city fan ? I dont think that you supported us when we were shit, hopefully you never go to games or actually support us

Was just about to ask the same.

 

[samharris]

Mancini isn't good enough for these players.Bring on: van Gaal, Mourinho, Guardiola, Capello and other top managers, we have enough money.

We will never be champions till he is here.

British summer time has started..

 

[BusterPhillips]

Mancini isn't good enough for these players.Bring on: van Gaal, Mourinho, Guardiola, Capello and other top managers, we have enough money.

We will never be champions till he is here.

Obviously a rag wum.

 

[jimharri]

So, is Whitehead going to be retrospectively banned or not? For a ref to say that an elbow that caused an serious injury to Silva is not a foul, is hypocritical, especially when the Lescott elbow incident was actually considered by the FA for a ban..

Forget it; he won't be banned. For starters, it looks more like his forearm, rather than an elbow (not that that would matter). And secondly, it doesn't look deliberate to me. He had his eyes on the ball the whole time. Huth's on Mario at Wembley was far worse, and he didn't get punished afterwards.

 

[Soulboy]

Mancini isn't good enough for these players.Bring on: van Gaal, Mourinho, Guardiola, Capello and other top managers, we have enough money.

We will never be champions till he is here.

are you a city fan ? I dont think that you supported us when we were shit, hopefully you never go to games or actually support us

Spot on mate.

If anyone one here didn't support City when we were shit, then they're not proper Blues.

If they didn't go to either York or Lincoln then they shouldn't be allowed to post on here.

 

[Bluemanc100]

How do fellas (lasses too lol)?
Stoke season ticket holder here (not here for a row btw lol).

I've read through a few pages on here and to be honest, I am a little disappointed at some of you guys but hey here's what I thought:
I don't think Mancini picked the ideal team to play us but I think part of your issue today was your inability to dominate in midfield. Stark contrast to the final... a game that we played well, you simply played better and it was midfield where you smashed us to pieces. That and the fact Balotelli had the game of his lifetime (imo) and was a completely different player to the one I saw today.

Dzeko wasn't the best player to stick up front. I don't deny his ability but against Shawcross and Huth you're unlikely to dominate in the air. So often we walk away from the Brit and it isn't a goal from a header... it's one from a through ball, or a brilliant piece of skill or a long shot. I don't know about your availability of players today but before the game, I was surprised and kind of satisfied that Dzeko was playing.

I know some of you are feeling like Howard Webb was our 12th man today but he really wasn't. It's not often two sets of fans walk away and genuinely feel the ref was terrible but he was. Surprising because I do feel he's the best England has to offer. There was a number of good Stoke penalty shouts and I thought he allowed a couple of your lads get away with a bit of gamesmanship.
I've seen that word protection popping up and unfortunately, I don't understand the football terminologies definition anymore. I think some of you (and the rest of the footballing world) are confusing genuine protection with petty protection. It was my understanding that the word protection was used after some of the horrific injuries that took place in the last few seasons, including A Ramseys. Putting a firm but fair aerial challenge in does not require protection. Putting a firm but fair slide tackle in does not require protection. In the last few weeks, Stoke have been on the receiving end of some incredibly poor decisions due to this protection misinterpretation... Huth's tackle against Sunderland didn't touch the guy and Rory Delap's tackle in the Crawley game actually WON the ball. However in the game with Stoke vs Arsenal, it was a fast paced game with poor tackles flying in (from BOTH teams). Fabregas threw a real shocker in on Wilson I think it was. The ref didn't deal with it properly (where protection should have been implemented) and the game got even faster and more aggressive and the result was Ramseys bad injury. Today, there were no vicious tackles, no really bad aerial tackles. Whiteheads challenge with Silva was more unfortunate than nasty imo and let's be honest, the tackle on Whelan was very poor so unless I'm mistaken, protection is not the correct word to describe what you wanted.

For those who thought Crouch scored a lucky goal... Isn't luck described as success (or failure) brought on by chance rather than actions. Crouch turned skilfully and hammered a brilliant shot on target that flew in. Toure strikes from 40 yards, takes a massive deflection and goes in. Which one was lucky? Hmm.

I still think you will win the title if you keep your heads in your upcoming fixtures. Part of your problem today I felt was discipline. It is in your hands, but you need to maintain a run of form, something which United seem to have just about hit.

Off the match...
Bit disappointed at those calling us a pub team, rugby team (hence the name), sunday league team etc blah blah... I don't deny that strategically, our game relies on the long ball, but I actually believe our style is a bit more unique than the old fashioned Wimbledon way. We actually can pass it and I think people forget that we have players who previously in their careers relied on a less direct game and as such they are able to incorporate more than just the long ball. I don't know if it's the younger Man City fans saying that... those who can't remember the humble roots when both of us were hammering it in the old Division 2. Of course, it could be those who have only supported you for the last 2 years but surely they don't exist ? :P Better ask Rio lol!!

I noticed a few people mention the losses to QPR, Sunderland etc. Our home form has been erratic but against Liverpool we won 1-0, against Chelsea we drew 0-0, against Man Utd we drew 1-1. This isn't a coincidence. We do play well at home usually, and some of the games we lost have been in bizarre circumstances. Dodgy Huth red card against Sunderland, fucking awful ref against QPR, and simply a crap performance against Newcastle.

Finally, for the few who mentioned the Valencia game that we lost... Yes, we did lose, to a stunning strike from 30 yards out. They played a similar game to you and achieved little up front. It took a brilliant strike from distance to win them the game (and effectively the tie).

You were doing well until "massive deflection"....... Fuck off to the Oatcake WUM

 

[pominoz]

Mancini isn't good enough for these players.Bring on: van Gaal, Mourinho, Guardiola, Capello and other top managers, we have enough money.

We will never be champions till he is here.

Do us all a favour and go back to supporting whoever it was before this year.

That's my polite way of saying fuck off.

 

[dadnlad]

Mancini isn't good enough for these players.Bring on: van Gaal, Mourinho, Guardiola, Capello and other top managers, we have enough money.

We will never be champions till he is here.

Do us all a favour and go back to supporting whoever it was before this year.

That's my polite way of saying fuck off.

he carn't get a ticket :)