Strike

Blue Maverick said:
I think the only way to really affect the government would be to do a coordinated rolling strike pattern, this way all unions and members share the burden and cost but would cause the most disruption and get us heard, so Monday teachers strike, Tuesday fire service, Wednesday council workers and so on, I know it might not be popular but it would have maximum effect and then maybe those tossers in parliament would stop taking us all for idiots.
Too many shitbags,we did a co-ordinated strike and next day every union apart from Pcs rolled over and without speaking to its members
 
TCIB said:
cyberblue said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
When the PCSU General Secretary Mark Serwotka stood for election in 2000, he pledged that be would only accept the equivalent of an average civil servant's wage if elected.

In 2011 his total remuneration package was over £125,000. So all civil servants are obviously well off.
Most union members are not remotley interested how much there leaders are on .what concerns them is that they represent them to the best of there abilaty .Each year the leaders of the Unions stand for election as he has been head of the Union for 13 years he must be doing right .Well done for all those who supported the Strike


Well they should be.

No union busy body should be on that amount of cash.

If they are willing to accept that then more fool them.

Why?
Have you been in an auditorium when Mark has been speaking? Or do you know the miles he covers to attend these meetings? or how much a "managing director" in an organisation with as many "staff" as the PSC have earns?
Having heard him a few times speaking over here, and also in various news conferences, speeches on the TV and in the written word, I would say that he is worth the money that the members that employ him pay, and even if not, it would be up to them to decide to cease his employment, not yours or mine, and as he stand each year in an open and accountable election for his job, they seem happy enough with what he provides for his "total remuneration package" which you deem not fit to break down.
 
TCIB said:
cyberblue said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
When the PCSU General Secretary Mark Serwotka stood for election in 2000, he pledged that be would only accept the equivalent of an average civil servant's wage if elected.

In 2011 his total remuneration package was over £125,000. So all civil servants are obviously well off.
Most union members are not remotley interested how much there leaders are on .what concerns them is that they represent them to the best of there abilaty .Each year the leaders of the Unions stand for election as he has been head of the Union for 13 years he must be doing right .Well done for all those who supported the Strike


Well they should be.

No union busy body should be on that amount of cash.

If they are willing to accept that then more fool them.

Are you telling us, the Union Membership, what we should be concerned with?
I couldn't give a sod what he earns. He does a good job.
 
I think many under estimate the depth of feelings of many public sector workers and if the unions could get their shit together it could happen, as for public opinion I think many if us don't really care anymore this is almost a last stand for many of us, if we roll over now many of workers right will disappear they are already looking at easier ways for people to be sacked, I for one am very afraid of what the future holds in my job, sacked on the grounds of capability even if I picked that injury up on a working job or not!!
 
Blue Maverick said:
I think many under estimate the depth of feelings of many public sector workers and if the unions could get their shit together it could happen, as for public opinion I think many if us don't really care anymore this is almost a last stand for many of us, if we roll over now many of workers right will disappear they are already looking at easier ways for people to be sacked, I for one am very afraid of what the future holds in my job, sacked on the grounds of capability even if I picked that injury up on a working job or not!!

But going on strike is like shagging for virginity, it's not going to help is it, not in this day and age things have moved on now, and public opinion does matter because ultimately the Public pay the wages!
 
Serious question. If you hold out for the benefits you want, or keep hold of the ones you have, with the reduced council budgets would this not ultimately result in job losses?
 
law74 said:
TCIB said:
cyberblue said:
Most union members are not remotley interested how much there leaders are on .what concerns them is that they represent them to the best of there abilaty .Each year the leaders of the Unions stand for election as he has been head of the Union for 13 years he must be doing right .Well done for all those who supported the Strike


Well they should be.

No union busy body should be on that amount of cash.

If they are willing to accept that then more fool them.

Why?
Have you been in an auditorium when Mark has been speaking? Or do you know the miles he covers to attend these meetings? or how much a "managing director" in an organisation with as many "staff" as the PSC have earns?
Having heard him a few times speaking over here, and also in various news conferences, speeches on the TV and in the written word, I would say that he is worth the money that the members that employ him pay, and even if not, it would be up to them to decide to cease his employment, not yours or mine, and as he stand each year in an open and accountable election for his job, they seem happy enough with what he provides for his "total remuneration package" which you deem not fit to break down.


No because i'm to busy working my bollocks of to keep my company running without listening to some free loading feckless gravy train lobbyist.

I don't care if he drove to the moon and back every day dodging missiles and lions mate his job can't entail anything beyond talking and attending meetings.

A brain surgeon deserves that but not a fatcat gravy train moron.
 
johnmc said:
Serious question. If you hold out for the benefits you want, or keep hold of the ones you have, with the reduced council budgets would this not ultimately result in job losses?

It's terms and conditions not money,people slag us off all the time but they won't stick up for their collegues job in their workplace? Look at image you all get from media about mark serwotka,great public speaker and actually gives a crap about his members,if mp's give a shit like mark then maybe we'd be in a better state
 
Ducado said:
Blue Maverick said:
I think many under estimate the depth of feelings of many public sector workers and if the unions could get their shit together it could happen, as for public opinion I think many if us don't really care anymore this is almost a last stand for many of us, if we roll over now many of workers right will disappear they are already looking at easier ways for people to be sacked, I for one am very afraid of what the future holds in my job, sacked on the grounds of capability even if I picked that injury up on a working job or not!!

But going on strike is like shagging for virginity, it's not going to help is it, not in this day and age things have moved on now, and public opinion does matter because ultimately the Public pay the wages!

But it does help Duccy.

The Government have already conceded that the over 50 age group should be exempt from the pension reforms. That was a result of strike action.
 
nicholasjackson said:
johnmc said:
Serious question. If you hold out for the benefits you want, or keep hold of the ones you have, with the reduced council budgets would this not ultimately result in job losses?

It's terms and conditions not money,people slag us off all the time but they won't stick up for their collegues job in their workplace? Look at image you all get from media about mark serwotka,great public speaker and actually gives a crap about his members,if mp's give a shit like mark then maybe we'd be in a better state

I thought the terms and conditions do relate to pounds and pence, such as changes to the pension arrangements. Apologies if I am wrong. Usually money is involved in theses disputes.
 

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