Strike

[TCIB]

Most union members are not remotley interested how much there leaders are on .what concerns them is that they represent them to the best of there abilaty .Each year the leaders of the Unions stand for election as he has been head of the Union for 13 years he must be doing right .Well done for all those who supported the Strike

Well they should be.

No union busy body should be on that amount of cash.

If they are willing to accept that then more fool them.

Are you telling us, the Union Membership, what we should be concerned with?
I couldn't give a sod what he earns. He does a good job.

Couldn't give a shit what your opinion is on anything after your vindictive nasty snipes on the thread organising the bm do.
So talk to someone who has the tongue to converse with you because i can't stand people like you who get pleasure being a nasty fucker for no reason.

I would say more but i like my account here :)

 

[law74]

I think many under estimate the depth of feelings of many public sector workers and if the unions could get their shit together it could happen, as for public opinion I think many if us don't really care anymore this is almost a last stand for many of us, if we roll over now many of workers right will disappear they are already looking at easier ways for people to be sacked, I for one am very afraid of what the future holds in my job, sacked on the grounds of capability even if I picked that injury up on a working job or not!!

But going on strike is like shagging for virginity, it's not going to help is it, not in this day and age things have moved on now, and public opinion does matter because ultimately the Public pay the wages!

There is an ever growing realisation that the attacks on public services are not about austerity but merely about putting public services out for private gain, this IS effecting peoples living conditions, not just those on welfare, or those working in the public sector, but many of those on low and middle incomes.
Is it better to strike now while we still have schools, daycare centres, social care facilities, an NHS etc or to wait until after further attacks on the things we hold dear?
The Libraries are closing, the social services are being cut, the NHS is under attack, when do we stand? Now? or after it is too late?

Yes public opinion counts, and that is why I spend a lot of my free time on here, other message boards and on social network sites alerting people to the problems we are facing.
As has already been said in this thread, better to die on your feet.....

 

[DelToro]

I think many under estimate the depth of feelings of many public sector workers and if the unions could get their shit together it could happen, as for public opinion I think many if us don't really care anymore this is almost a last stand for many of us, if we roll over now many of workers right will disappear they are already looking at easier ways for people to be sacked, I for one am very afraid of what the future holds in my job, sacked on the grounds of capability even if I picked that injury up on a working job or not!!

But going on strike is like shagging for virginity, it's not going to help is it, not in this day and age things have moved on now, and public opinion does matter because ultimately the Public pay the wages!

The phrase "this day and age" is a dangerous one. It is bandied about to justify all sorts of things.

Whether public sector strikes achieve what workers want may be questionable but the question is - what is the alternative? Do workers simply acquiesce regardless of what the employer does?

If the HMRC wrongly taxed you would you accept it because in this day and age the government really needed the money?

 

[njmcfc1894]

Serious question. If you hold out for the benefits you want, or keep hold of the ones you have, with the reduced council budgets would this not ultimately result in job losses?

It's terms and conditions not money,people slag us off all the time but they won't stick up for their collegues job in their workplace? Look at image you all get from media about mark serwotka,great public speaker and actually gives a crap about his members,if mp's give a shit like mark then maybe we'd be in a better state

I thought the terms and conditions do relate to pounds and pence, such as changes to the pension arrangements. Apologies if I am wrong. Usually money is involved in theses disputes.

Pension negotiations seperate,this is flexi time etc, thing is people forget the union made sure women weren't just sacked for getting pregnant,maternity leave,part time for women ,childcare etc,union definetly needed in civil service,due to cuts the higher ups are lookin for any excuse to bin people off to save money,we got this thing in "lean" says its better way to do things,in other words job cuts.
There is a lot going on the public aren't told

 

[TCIB]

I do feel for those who feel the need to strike but if the coffers are empty then what can you do ?

 

[tidyman]

Hope the day went well and the strike was solid. Pleasantly surprised by this thread actually. Would have expected a 50/50 split but apart from the odd gloating scab and one or two others, it seems the majority understand what you have been forced into.

I was a branch secretary for a predecessor of the CPSU, the CPSA, many moons ago. We had plenty of strikes and issues back then but even from the outside now, it's plain to see that the attacks on members have reached new heights under this government.

I'm a member of the RMT now and all the members at Northern Rail are going to be balloted shortly over several issues. The most serious been the increasing outsourcing of railway jobs to agencies.

 

[njmcfc1894]

I do feel for those who feel the need to strike but if the coffers are empty then what can you do ?

Foreign aid,Chase up Vodafone etc for the 6 or 7bn they won't hand over?

 

[law74]

Pension negotiations seperate,this is flexi time etc, thing is people forget the union made sure women weren't just sacked for getting pregnant,maternity leave,part time for women ,childcare etc,union definetly needed in civil service,due to cuts the higher ups are lookin for any excuse to bin people off to save money,we got this thing in "lean" says its better way to do things,in other words job cuts.
There is a lot going on the public aren't told

You dont mean the same LEAN that removed the checks and balances that ensured that customer data was secure within the old CSA before it was rebranded CMED? and ultimately when the security checks were removed and massive amounts of data were lost, then sought to blame to lowest paid member of staff that had handled the data in the new format?

OK, I thought so.

 

[TCIB]

I do feel for those who feel the need to strike but if the coffers are empty then what can you do ?

Foreign aid,Chase up Vodafone etc for the 6 or 7bn they won't hand over?

Hehe i fully agree with the aid stuff, however i think thats all cloak and daggers to keep them sweet with us for many a wonderful reason.

I think cash owed we may as well write of because no bugger will be stumping up i bet.

How much do vodafone owe ? bloody hell how did they get away not payint it, tax i assume ?

 

[law74]

I do feel for those who feel the need to strike but if the coffers are empty then what can you do ?

Foreign aid,Chase up Vodafone etc for the 6 or 7bn they won't hand over?

Amazon. Google uk, Boots (HQ of a PO Box in Switzerland employing zero staff), The arcadia group including Burtons, dorothy perkins, Top Shop, Top Man etc, PWC, Deloitte, etc etc, the coffers are only empty because those in power are in the pay of those that choose not to contribute back into society.