sjk2008 said:I don't for one minute think they are skint. However, it doesn't mean they are willing to throw another £100m in a manager's hands after the previous one bought a pitch full of complete average-ness.
They are not going to qualify for the CL, probably not even the EL, this year, whether they keep Suarez or not, so I suppose they could look at the bigger picture and say "We keep Suarez, and try again next year" or "Sell him, bring in another 3 or 4 players to boost the squad, and try again next year.
Unless FSG are willing to throw more money into the manager's hands, when said manager spent £11m of it on Fabio Borini, then there isn't much more option. Plus, there's also the factor of whether Suarez is 100% at Liverpool. He joined them ad they're a bigger club than Ajax and felt he would be fighting to win titles in better competitions. Quite clearly, that isn't happening for him at the moment, and doesn't look like it's going to any time soon.
moomba said:Don't know if this has been mentioned, but FSG's investment company recently lost a lot of money.
Can't remember details but I think it closed with assets of a couple of hundred million USD, as opposed to a few billion a year or so ago.
BillyShears said:sjk2008 said:I don't for one minute think they are skint. However, it doesn't mean they are willing to throw another £100m in a manager's hands after the previous one bought a pitch full of complete average-ness.
They are not going to qualify for the CL, probably not even the EL, this year, whether they keep Suarez or not, so I suppose they could look at the bigger picture and say "We keep Suarez, and try again next year" or "Sell him, bring in another 3 or 4 players to boost the squad, and try again next year.
Unless FSG are willing to throw more money into the manager's hands, when said manager spent £11m of it on Fabio Borini, then there isn't much more option. Plus, there's also the factor of whether Suarez is 100% at Liverpool. He joined them ad they're a bigger club than Ajax and felt he would be fighting to win titles in better competitions. Quite clearly, that isn't happening for him at the moment, and doesn't look like it's going to any time soon.
You make a good argument there mate. I suppose if BR was given all the money he raised plus a bit more then he could be tempted to sell. But we're talking mid season. If they were to create a market in January and someone did bite, their season would go straight down the shitter. Look at how they had their pants taken down over Carrol ... a 50 million sale of Suarez is useless in Jan because anyone you go and buy you'll have to pay a premium for.
sjk2008 said:BillyShears said:sjk2008 said:I don't for one minute think they are skint. However, it doesn't mean they are willing to throw another £100m in a manager's hands after the previous one bought a pitch full of complete average-ness.
They are not going to qualify for the CL, probably not even the EL, this year, whether they keep Suarez or not, so I suppose they could look at the bigger picture and say "We keep Suarez, and try again next year" or "Sell him, bring in another 3 or 4 players to boost the squad, and try again next year.
Unless FSG are willing to throw more money into the manager's hands, when said manager spent £11m of it on Fabio Borini, then there isn't much more option. Plus, there's also the factor of whether Suarez is 100% at Liverpool. He joined them ad they're a bigger club than Ajax and felt he would be fighting to win titles in better competitions. Quite clearly, that isn't happening for him at the moment, and doesn't look like it's going to any time soon.
You make a good argument there mate. I suppose if BR was given all the money he raised plus a bit more then he could be tempted to sell. But we're talking mid season. If they were to create a market in January and someone did bite, their season would go straight down the shitter. Look at how they had their pants taken down over Carrol ... a 50 million sale of Suarez is useless in Jan because anyone you go and buy you'll have to pay a premium for.
I agree with you re the January Market prices. On the flipside, Liverpool will know that they will probably get much more money for Suarez in January, than perhaps say June.
Even though the board sactioned the Carroll, Henderson & Downing deals, I don't think they'd be equally as stupid here to be prepared to sell Suarez in Jan UNLESS they already had replacements lined up.
They've been linked with Villa a few times now and, I can also see Sanchez off next summer, so perhaps there's two names straight away that could fit the bill. That being said, who's to say they'd want to go there?
If Suarez goes in Jan, it's a risk, no question. But so is sticking their heads in the sand and believing the squad they currently have can compete at the top.
They need to do something and, despite him being their best player, selling Suarez is not, IMO, out of the question, whether it be Jan or July.
BillyShears said:NipHolmes said:Look at Newcastle when they sold Carrol. Imo they want PSG to go in for him or the likes of. Sell for 40-50, so too Carrol 15-20 and maybe Downing if they find someone stupid to pay 10+ and that's a sum if 65+ to spend. Off the back of that the warrior deal and the new tv package and that's a rebuild sum right there.
Speculation on my part but I can see it.
The most important point anybody yet is to have mentioned is that Liverpool board detest him and nearly lost a few sponsorships through him. Forget on field matters, the club relies on sponsorship revenue and Suarez is a hazard for them
It's not impossible and I have no idea what the Liverpool board think of Suarez to be honest. I just find it hard to believe that this story has come from them, when I heard it from a City source yesterday.
mad zab said:It is not improbable that his source was from LFC.
I don't know why you are so certain that it hasn't come from LFC.
BillyShears said:sjk2008 said:BillyShears said:You make a good argument there mate. I suppose if BR was given all the money he raised plus a bit more then he could be tempted to sell. But we're talking mid season. If they were to create a market in January and someone did bite, their season would go straight down the shitter. Look at how they had their pants taken down over Carrol ... a 50 million sale of Suarez is useless in Jan because anyone you go and buy you'll have to pay a premium for.
I agree with you re the January Market prices. On the flipside, Liverpool will know that they will probably get much more money for Suarez in January, than perhaps say June.
Even though the board sactioned the Carroll, Henderson & Downing deals, I don't think they'd be equally as stupid here to be prepared to sell Suarez in Jan UNLESS they already had replacements lined up.
They've been linked with Villa a few times now and, I can also see Sanchez off next summer, so perhaps there's two names straight away that could fit the bill. That being said, who's to say they'd want to go there?
If Suarez goes in Jan, it's a risk, no question. But so is sticking their heads in the sand and believing the squad they currently have can compete at the top.
They need to do something and, despite him being their best player, selling Suarez is not, IMO, out of the question, whether it be Jan or July.
Llorente is the most likely candidate IMO because of his contractual situation. I can see Liverpool moving for him regardless of the sale of Suarez.
I don't think they would be under any illusions about the strength of their squad. It's weak, even if it does have some quality in it.
sjk2008 said:You know what, I totally forgot about Llorente.
Saying that, is Llorente Rodgers' kind of player. He's basically a more clinical Andy Carroll with better feet. He would be a freebie though, so it's a cracking deal for anyone.
I would rather sell Suarez for £30m and get Llorente (free) and Villa (£10m?) and still have £20m in the pot.
Re Llorente - I wouldn't be surprised if Milan or Juve went in for him, though.