Sunderland post match thread

blueheart84 said:
Good win against terrible opposition. We shoulda had 6 or 7 really.
Officiating was very poor and I've completely lost faith in Bony as a striker.
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Bony is scoring regularly now but he's putting himself under pressure by not playing as well as he can
 
Stockport mackem said:
Well played boys and girls... I think you will do Leicester....today was a nice gentle opener of a mad week for games coming up.
For my lot....well...a desperate few months lie ahead.
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Not looking forward to Liverpool. Though Villa may finally give us points on the board. Though I don't think it will be the full three. I think the best we can hope for is one. In places we may not be good enough to beat them. The defense will be opened like a packet of crisps due to their inability to put in a tackle or kick the ball away and the midfielders lose the use of their legs the moment the boots touch grass. After that I can't see any points till possibly Norwich (a) on April 16. I really don't see where the next win will come from this season.

If anything good comes from yesterday's frankly embarrassing debacle (albeit a team who dominated us without even getting out of 1st gear) is that if BSA is able to rescue some credibility as a manager he will get rid of the soft shites that fail abysmally to commit themselves to doing what they are meant to do. A few seasons in the Championship may just be what we need to rebuild the team and it's confidence. And hopefully a winning return to Wembley will give us a massive cash injection needed to buy decent players to replace those like Coates, O'Shit, Graham and all the others who are a disgrace to the Sunderland shirt and all the legends who played in it like Bryan 'Pop' Robson, Len Shackleton and Ian Porterfield.
 
ShieldsBlackCat said:
Not looking forward to Liverpool. Though Villa may finally give us points on the board. Though I don't think it will be the full three. I think the best we can hope for is one. In places we may not be good enough to beat them. The defense will be opened like a packet of crisps due to their inability to put in a tackle or kick the ball away and the midfielders lose the use of their legs the moment the boots touch grass. After that I can't see any points till possibly Norwich (a) on April 16. I really don't see where the next win will come from this season.

If anything good comes from yesterday's frankly embarrassing debacle (albeit a team who dominated us without even getting out of 1st gear) is that if BSA is able to rescue some credibility as a manager he will get rid of the soft shites that fail abysmally to commit themselves to doing what they are meant to do. A few seasons in the Championship may just be what we need to rebuild the team and it's confidence. And hopefully a winning return to Wembley will give us a massive cash injection needed to buy decent players to replace those like Coates, O'Shit, Graham and all the others who are a disgrace to the Sunderland shirt and all the legends who played in it like Bryan 'Pop' Robson, Len Shackleton and Ian Porterfield.
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Good Luck against Liverpool. Maybe you kept something back in reserve for that game.

Every other season one of the dead men wakes up and revives. Job has got to start at home. And got to stop leaking easy goals. Raheem Sterling with a header?
 
Did I really see what I saw yesterday? Sunderland, Fat Sam's Sunderland, came to the Etihad and played four forwards and an open game? Bizarre, the most bizarre tactics I've seen considering who the manager was (remember that 1-1 against Blackburn when they had a free kick near our box in injury time and Pederson kicked it out for a throw in because they didn't want us counter-attaching them?).

Much more energy from us yesterday. de Bruyne and Silva were absolute class.
 
KippaxCitizen said:
Did I really see what I saw yesterday? Sunderland, Fat Sam's Sunderland, came to the Etihad and played four forwards and an open game? Bizarre, the most bizarre tactics I've seen considering who the manager was (remember that 1-1 against Blackburn when they had a free kick near our box in injury time and Pederson kicked it out for a throw in because they didn't want us counter-attaching them?).

Much more energy from us yesterday. de Bruyne and Silva were absolute class.
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I said the same thing at the match, expected them to do the usual Sunderland defend like possessed men out of no where for 80 minutes then it's a toss up who wins 1-0 at the end; usually them. However within 5 minutes they had the ball in our half & with plenty of men forward looking to take the lead.

Obviously didn't turn out very well but I was appreciative all the same. Made for a great De Bruyne Silva Sterling show.
 
They kept getting Borini to stand about 5 yards offside initially. I guess the thinking was that Oto and Managala would forget about him and he could drift back onside.

It's the kind of thing a drunk would think of in the pub the night before the match and think it was genius. But that doesn't sound like Big Sam.
 
KippaxCitizen said:
Did I really see what I saw yesterday? Sunderland, Fat Sam's Sunderland, came to the Etihad and played four forwards and an open game? Bizarre, the most bizarre tactics I've seen considering who the manager was (remember that 1-1 against Blackburn when they had a free kick near our box in injury time and Pederson kicked it out for a throw in because they didn't want us counter-attaching them?).

Much more energy from us yesterday. de Bruyne and Silva were absolute class.
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We were talking in the car after the game about the side he put out. Why would you play Mannone, Johnson and Graham, who aren't regulars? Either he'd decided just to throw this game in order to concentrate on the ones where they're more likely to get something or he was putting those players in the shop window for January.

Wonder what happened to that great tactical master-plan he concocted last season to beat us at Upton Park?
 
This is what Sam said in the managers email:

Dear Xxxx,

I have to apologise to our fans who travelled today.

We all knew it was going to be difficult against Manchester City, but I did expect us to show a little bit more fight and determination.

Losing three goals in the space of nine minutes is something you cannot do; you can't afford to make the kind of mistakes we made.

Our play out of possession has to improve and that is where our problems lie at the moment.

We can look neat and tidy in possession, create a few chances, but when we lose the ball we are not defending correctly as a team at this moment in time. Too many teams are scoring against us.

It isn't a slow start, because the lads were doing okay. With the lapses in concentration and the way City scored it looks like a slow start, but it's individuals at that moment in time not doing their job correctly.

Younes Kaboul is out and we know the key strength of the side is down the middle. John O'Shea was limping at the end and that makes life more difficult.

If we lose John, Wes [Brown] has only just come back from a bit of an injury and of course he hasn't played that much.

The only way to go forward is to get clean sheets.
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Sam is honest at least if not exactly tactically astute. The sixth paragraph about players not doing their job correctly was the thing that perhaps gives me most hope that he can give these 'individuals' the axe that is so overdue and deserved and put in the players, if any, that is actually any good and give them regular starts. He (Sam Allardyce) is just half the problem. The the other half is the players and certain ones who according to many up here, it seems, intent on waging a campaign of destabilization. They seem intent on destabilizing the club and dragging it down as far as they think we should go. But the days of us ever coming good and actually being the one to have the bragging rights over others for a change seem as distant as ever. It has been a long time since I was last able to metaphorically look an opposition fan in the face and say "We beat you because were the better ones and we are the better ones".
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
We were talking in the car after the game about the side he put out. Why would you play Mannone, Johnson and Graham, who aren't regulars? Either he'd decided just to throw this game in order to concentrate on the ones where they're more likely to get something or he was putting those players in the shop window for January.

Wonder what happened to that great tactical master-plan he concocted last season to beat us at Upton Park?
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Compliments on the very necessary and very accurate reply to the Independent's unpleasant description of the transformation of our club.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
We were talking in the car after the game about the side he put out. Why would you play Mannone, Johnson and Graham, who aren't regulars? Either he'd decided just to throw this game in order to concentrate on the ones where they're more likely to get something or he was putting those players in the shop window for January.

Wonder what happened to that great tactical master-plan he concocted last season to beat us at Upton Park?
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extra few days for some, considering they have to play Wednesday/Saturday this week, and they have 2 home games (Pool & Villa)
 
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