Sunderland Vs City Post Match Thread

Yet we managed to win 4-1 without risking further injury to Silva, giving him some much needed recuperation and all told we should have scored 7/8. Hart was never going to be involved in this game.
Your definition of lucky is flawed.
I think bluemc1's post was tongue-in-cheek. At least I hope it was :)
 
Manager's first priority is bringing trophies back to City. That's why we spent £150m in the Summer.

You seem to have forgotten that 3 young players got game time.

One. Roberts has just been bought for £8m-12m and was playing first team football at his previous club, including games in the Premier League. If I've got my dates right here, he will NEVER qualify as a club trained player. Evans got about 3 minutes including injury time. Garcia was the only one to have any form of significant game time from the EDS and he played 16 minutes.

We were 4-0 up at the 36th minute...
 
Both players had injury problems.

We did it perfectly in my opinion. Had it been lower league opposition at home you'd have a point.

Overall, bringing young players through is something we have yet to do, but it's extraordinarily difficult to do given the players in the squad and the pressures involved. Two good Cup runs will help. Perhaps Kelechi would have played had he been available. He has already played, and Pellegrini could have gone into the transfer mkt to replace Dzeko/Jovetic but he didn't.
 
Because this isn't one game. It's a consistent trend across 8 years where we have consistently failed to do something. The Dunning Kruger post was about hindsight and the discussion of tactics and how it could affect causality. This is about an overarching problem with how we approach bringing players through our youth system that has spanned near a decade. Many people misunderstood that as "well it's impossible to have an informed opinion on anything", of course it isn't. It isn't impossible to see that Sergio Aguero is our best striker because he has a record that can be referenced in comparison across many datapoints. It's impossible to say that Aguero would have been a better striker for a specific game than Bony because you're not working off of any data points alone in context of a single game.

Essentially, if you don't have any data to work from then it applies but if you do have data to work from that spans what is a relatively long period of time then you can form judgements based upon that. It's not necessarily correct, but you can at least have an actual opinion that is backed up.

Thanks for that Damo - appreciated sir.
 
Decent performance but no better than that kolarov and sergio didn't look interested! The back line seemed incredibly slow! Willy played well as did kdb and sterling nice little cameo by roberts who will be pushing for navas spot in the squad soon! Nice easy home draw tonight please!
 
I was happy with the team he put out, I gave my reasons in the pre match thread. That said there's no reason whatsoever for not giving a full half to at least two of the young lads once the score line is 4-0.
It worked out though, we got a much needed confidence booster before the weekend and nobody suffered through injury.
 
Yet we managed to win 4-1 without risking further injury to Silva, giving him some much needed recuperation and all told we should have scored 7/8. Hart was never going to be involved in this game.
Your definition of lucky is flawed.

Whooooooooosh

its early so ill let you off lol
 
Both players had injury problems.

We did it perfectly in my opinion. Had it been lower league opposition at home you'd have a point.

Overall, bringing young players through is something we have yet to do, but it's extraordinarily difficult to do given the players in the squad and the pressures involved. Two good Cup runs will help. Perhaps Kelechi would have played had he been available. He has already played, and Pellegrini could have gone into the transfer mkt to replace Dzeko/Jovetic but he didn't.

  • 13 Caballero
  • 03 Sagna
  • 11 Kolarov
  • 20 Mangala
  • 26 Demichelis
  • 25 Fernandinho
  • 18 Lampard
  • 42 Y Touré
  • 07 Milner
  • 15 Jesús Navas
  • 10 Dzeko
That was our line up in the League Cup last year at home against lower league opposition.
 
One. Roberts has just been bought for £8m-12m and was playing first team football at his previous club, including games in the Premier League. If I've got my dates right here, he will NEVER qualify as a club trained player. Evans got about 3 minutes including injury time. Garcia was the only one to have any form of significant game time from the EDS and he played 16 minutes.

We were 4-0 up at the 36th minute...
So you want to argue over the optimal timing of substitutions. No thanks
 

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