Super Joey Hart?

Keep Hart, promote Gunn to no.2.

Get Eric Steele out of retirement to help Joe with distribution.

Doing the above frees up another 'foreign' player spot rather than losing another which is the outcome from the OP's post.

Cant say I agree or disagree with the Eric Steele part but the rest is spot on !
 
Thought he had a reverse Fernando today. Fernando had a very good match with one shockingly shit moment, whereas Hart had a pretty poor match with one fantastic moment. I don't attach much blame to him for the first goal, although it was a completely pointless thing to do as Fernando had absolutely nothing positive he could have done with it and is surrounded by three men in any direction he might want to turn, it is still almost entirely Fernando's fault for not rolling it straight back to Hart and making him kick it.

His refusal to even try and catch the ball under any circumstance annoys me endlessly though and it just keeps attacks alive and gives the other team more chances. When a keeper catches it it completely lifts the pressure and is a huge boost to the whole team. He seems to have lost all confidence in his ability to catch even the most routine of balls under no pressure


Did Hart not tell Fernando to pass to the right back... his pointing looked like it did. Fern with his back to play knew better ?
 
Did Hart not tell Fernando to pass to the right back... his pointing looked like it did. Fern with his back to play knew better ?
That wouldn't have been much of an idea either with Cavani waiting for him to do that. PSG were essentially set in a trap for Fernando, where he was surrounded if he did anything but play it back to Hart, but Hart didn't see that and passed it to him anyway, then Fernando wasn't aware enough either and got caught out.
 
Thought Hart was at fault for both goals and his inability to catch the ball led to the penalty, Saying that it was a stupid freekick by Clichy in the first place.
 
Thought Hart was at fault for both goals and his inability to catch the ball led to the penalty, Saying that it was a stupid freekick by Clichy in the first place.

So its Harts fault that Ibrahimovich is offside? Admittedly I still think Joe would have made the same save but he was offside and in Joe's line of sight, attempted to play the ball and is therefore offside
 
A poor decision, a cock up - call it what you will. No excuses - we gifted them a goal out of nothing. All said and done, Joe made a big cock-up, but made a wonderful penalty save to give us a chance of progressing. Shit happens, but let's move on.
 
If people think the first was Joe Harts fault then he'll be making a lot of mistakes next season when every goal kick is short.
 
Jesus Christ, some of you need to have a serious word with yourselves if you think Hart was in any way to blame for that Fernando fuck up.

He does need to catch it more though.
 
If you look at last nights blooper and the one against the scum, ask yourself these questions.

1. Who could see all the pitch and all the rest of the players - Hart.
2. Who couldn't see all the pitch and all the rest of the players - Fernando & Demichellis.

Fernando & Demichellis are of cause partly to blame but Hart shoulders most of it.

Hart punches because he has been trained to do that, but he is not very good at it and often it would be easier just to catch the ball.

Don't get me on his distribution it is shocking and may be the reason he is told to play the ball short.

If he stuck to what he is good at and learned from his errors he would be fine, but frankly I think we can do better.
 
If you look at last nights blooper and the one against the scum, ask yourself these questions.

1. Who could see all the pitch and all the rest of the players - Hart.
2. Who couldn't see all the pitch and all the rest of the players - Fernando & Demichellis.

Fernando & Demichellis are of cause partly to blame but Hart shoulders most of it.

Hart punches because he has been trained to do that, but he is not very good at it and often it would be easier just to catch the ball.

Don't get me on his distribution it is shocking and may be the reason he is told to play the ball short.

If he stuck to what he is good at and learned from his errors he would be fine, but frankly I think we can do better.

I'm sorry but shouldn't players looking for a pass from a keeper be aware of their surroundings? It was a poor touch from Fernando, that's why his team mates went to him to support him afterward and not to the blameless goalkeeper.
 
I'm sorry but shouldn't players looking for a pass from a keeper be aware of their surroundings? It was a poor touch from Fernando, that's why his team mates went to him to support him afterward and not to the blameless goalkeeper.
If I was one of Joes team mates, as soon as he got the ball I would turn my back on him and get as far up the pitch as possible.

He gives me the willies.
 
If I was one of Joes team mates, as soon as he got the ball I would turn my back on him and get as far up the pitch as possible.

He gives me the willies.

In general his ability with the ball at his feet is poor but that goal was not on him at all mate.
 
In general his ability with the ball at his feet is poor but that goal was not on him at all mate.
It was needless at that stage of the game. We had just scored and needed the sting taking out with it being only minutes to half time.
PSG were pushed quite high so even if Fernando wouldn't have made the cock up we'd have found ourselves under unnecessary pressure. His pass wasn't a poor one in the sense it was mishit or anything, it was a poor one because it was the wrong choice.
The back four at this moment in time aren't comfortable enough on the ball for us to be risking it.
His penalty save was obviously the highlight but then we all know that he's more than capable of pulling off stunning saves. Once again it was his decision making that was the problem for me. The days of a keeper making an important catch in the 18 yard box to take pressure off his defenders seems to have long gone. Sadly.
 
In general his ability with the ball at his feet is poor but that goal was not on him at all mate.
Totally agree with this, I found it astounding that people seek to blame JH. We have in Fernando a highly trained professional experienced footballer, it takes a second to look around, does he think Ibra had retreated to the centre circle and as for JH seeing all the pitch this is true it is also true that Fernando was facing Joe who was clearly pointing Ferna to turn/pass the ball to the full back, Fernando turned the other way, right into trouble.
 
Think Hart just can't win with some fans.

They moan when he just boots it up to the likes of Aguero and Silva and now some moan because he passed a ball to a player who should of been better on the ball.

If you watch a lot of players they look both ways before they've received the ball so they know their surroundings, Fernando just had his head down and just wasn't aware.

Expect more of this next season because Pep will want our keepers to pass it from the back in exactly the same situation.
 
It was needless at that stage of the game. We had just scored and needed the sting taking out with it being only minutes to half time.
PSG were pushed quite high so even if Fernando wouldn't have made the cock up we'd have found ourselves under unnecessary pressure. His pass wasn't a poor one in the sense it was mishit or anything, it was a poor one because it was the wrong choice.
The back four at this moment in time aren't comfortable enough on the ball for us to be risking it.
His penalty save was obviously the highlight but then we all know that he's more than capable of pulling off stunning saves. Once again it was his decision making that was the problem for me. The days of a keeper making an important catch in the 18 yard box to take pressure off his defenders seems to have long gone. Sadly.
What gets me is he gets slaughtered over and over regarding distribution, everytime he boots it long there's a bluemooner ready to chew his balls off for it, now he's giving it short to seek to pass it out of defence he's getting crucified for that too.
 
What gets me is he gets slaughtered over and over regarding distribution, everytime he boots it long there's a bluemooner ready to chew his balls off for it, now he's giving it short to seek to pass it out of defence he's getting crucified for that too.
Time and a place isn't there? Just because we want him to improve his distribution doesn't mean we want to put ourselves under pressure. It boils down to decision making and I think he got it wrong on that occasion.
 

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