Swansea (a) Post Match Thread

[blueinsa]

Jeez chill. Relegated! Ceo hated by all! Things are not that bad man.

Re otamendi, good player, he is one to keep. I have been impressed with him despit ed the bias press highlighting every city defensive mistake.

Billy had his tongue firmly planted in his cheek when he posted that.

 

[prof-taf]

you know we are a very lucky fan base, our terrible manager has gone. to be replacing one of the worst with one of, if not the best is fantastic.

can't wait for next season already. I just have to save up :)

ps. hotel in Cardiff already booked.

I hope you get a refund on your booking, no chance we will be in final.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

The match was abysmal, if anything it summed up our whole season. I find it astonishing that still since the takeover whenever we have a "crunch" match, last game of the season/final etc we can never have an easy game and somehow we always always make hard work of it. Swansea made several changes and had nothing to play for yet our midfield was overrun and we could have easily lost the game.
A big clear out is needed and Navas would be my first casualty, he is shocking.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Pep would be trolling half the posters on Bluemoon if he kept Fernando ;)

Agree though he's been very very good in recent weeks and does look bothered (although IMO he went missing at the Bernabau).

Nah. As I have said repeatedly this season he has defended well for us this season and has done enough to stay and be in the mix as a rotating player against the lesser lights. Attacking wise though he's poor and doesn't give us much. He doesn't pass forwards and doesn't move the ball forward into space when the opposition offer it. If he can improve that he may be given an opportunity by Pep.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Staggering given your stance on Pellegrini and insistence he has the beat squad in the league.

Surely Pep also inherits that best squad in the league so why the softening of your position and sudden dumbing down of expectation?

Unless of course your stance on Pellegrini has had nothing to do with the odd draw or defeat?

Spot on

 

[M18CTID]

then we are fucked. pep or no pep.

I'm just hoping Pep's first 2 league games with us don't mirror his first two league games as manager of Barcelona, otherwise this place will go into meltdown!

 

[Hungarian blue]

I'm just hoping Pep's first 2 league games with us don't mirror his first two league games as manager of Barcelona, otherwise this place will go into meltdown!

I'm actually sure we will have a period like this initially (then go on a roll and who knows, maybe win the league as we did with even Pellegrini in charge). And yes, the only thing that makes this thought a bit funny is the vision of a proper meltdown here. :)

 

[Danamy]

As I've said repeatedly in Pellegrini's formative weeks you didn't need to be a soothsayer or have a crystal ball to be able to see where it would all end up unless Pellegrini changed his tactics. All that was needed was a rudimentary knowledge of football to be able to connect the dots which drew a very clear picture. I saw it, @Shaelumstash saw it as did many others fans and pundits. What was more crucial was that other managers saw it too, but were too weary to act on it early on because the Mancini fear factor was still there. It may have taken a season before they all acted on it en masse but act they did and from thereon in our decline began.

You say a thread had to be pulled because of a prolonged bout of 'boasting', but was it boasting or people being unable to handle the inconvenient truth that many observant City fans were mercilessly hounded on here as footballing know nowts, hankerers or as being 'One of Bob's bellends' just because they had the temerity to disagree with a certain faction as to where we were headed? We all know that unconditional support for Pellegrini was more about the insane hatred some had for Mancini which just made any criticism of Manuel turn into a MP v RM war, but it was a war happily perpetrated by those who saw the 'wallopings' you highlight as vindication to get rid of Mancini where we all now know the club needed Mancini gone and a 'caretaker' in whilst we pursued Pep.

On a serious level now, many posters left the board and some never returned because of the treatment they had to endure because their views differed to yours and certain others, so where was the thread pulling then? I'll leave that point there as many of us by now will know what comes next.

Yes, we were walloping many teams for a period, but Pellegrini still had to change his suicide tactics for the final 5-6 games to get us over the line and even then it took Liverpool to shoot themselves in the foot to give us a clear run toward the title. But like I've said the problems that have characterised his tenure were there for everyone to see as far back as then even in the matches where we 'walloped' the opposition.

Did he learn from his 2013 - 2014 experience? No! Come August 2014 it was back to 442 and his Kamikaze tactics, only this time the penny had dropped with the majority of Premier League managers and they all began to act on it. On the day of the 2nd leg CL tie against Real I was aghast when he came out and said 'People always talk about tactics, but big matches are rarely won by tactics they are won by special players'. Really? That statement explained a lot about Manuel.

Just because you didn't spot all this early on doesn't mean it wasn't happening as you like others were too blinded by the 'wallopings' to see. The great thing about modern history is that most of it has been captured for eternity on video so its very easy to go back and revisit events. If you ever get a chance look again at Pellegrini's first season and I assure you that in hindsight you will clearly see what I and others were saying as far back as then. Don't just take my word for it, look and see for yourself and you will realise a crystal ball or having the powers of a soothsayer weren't needed.

We're all City fans and I hated being sat there watching what was happening to us, but at no point did Manuel lose my support. My faith in his ability yes, but not my support.

As for our differing opinions on our squad I accept your assertions that our 2012 - 2013 albeit I disagree with it which is why I took the time to list the squads so everyone can contrast and compare both. I still maintain the respective managers were the biggest difference and the squad we have now is stronger, but I'll refrain from ending with any Billy Big Bollocks 'If you don't agree with me, you need help' comments. That's two you've had for free.

I can't believe you're still beating that drum, just let go, he's gone, get over it.

Pour yourself a drink, relax and enjoy......if it makes you feel better you were right all along, i can tell you're the type that needs a cuddle every now and again.

I did find the bit where you tagged your partner in the post a bit embarrassing though

Enjoy the summer ;-)

 

[Blue Whale]

The man is 28 though and he dives in and makes as many daft decisions as Mangala does. I'm not defending Mangala as he is a lost cause also but you would of hoped for a man of 28 he wouldn't make anywhere near the mistakes he does.

I agree. His trademark lunge tackle is successful in about one in ten attempts. The way I see it is that demichelis had had a great career before us but was awful when he first came. He came good (before his legs went) and showed why he had been a top defender. I'm hoping Tarka does the same. Though, yeah, judging on this year alone you wouldn't have thought it possible he could come good.

 

[TBooksbluearmy]

The Swansea game was 1 of our worst performances since Manuel took over the club. Swansea were there for the taking and we should have put this game to bed by half time. Instead we were all praying that Swansea didn't sneak a 2 goal, because I couldn't see us scoring a 2nd goal.