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[Chippy_boy]

My 2 cents on this is not that there is a conspiracy, merely a bunch of bitter, failed, has-been ex-footballers who are jealous - really jealous - of where City find ourselves. And snide comment and backhanded insult sits more comfortably with many of them than does praise or positive recognition.

I say fuck 'em.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Ray parlour is just a fucking ****...sorry but let him hate all he wants..

 

[Pigeonho]

Ray parlour is just a fucking ****...sorry but let him hate all he wants..

He tipped us for the title.

 

[chesterguy]

As many posts as I put like I do, there are a hundred more which counter my opinion. That is the point of the forum, isn't it? To discuss? You notice mine because they stand out more because i'm in the minority of believing there is no huge conspiracy, but that doesn't make the majority or the minority right, it just means we're discussing it. Now is that ok with you?
Also, it's nothing to do with defending an ex Arsenal player as I couldn't care less who it is or who he played for, the fact as far as I can see it is that he said what he said with no intentional malice to discredit our history, he was merely talking about the here and now and if the poodle-haired one was on this forum i'm sure he would say that was the case. That still wouldn't be enough for some though. Now, is it ok if I carry on discussing such things?

-- Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:52 pm --


A PL title, an FA Cup, a Charity Shield, 1 great manager and the ability to attract another, as well as brilliant players from far and wide - I would say the club is in an excellent position, and that's not even including the recent sponsors who have come on-board. If there is some great conspiracy out there, it's not really doing it's job, is it?

I have never said there is a "conspiracy" nor for the record am I "paranoid" What I have stated is that the media constantly reinforce a negative stereotypical image of "moneybags" City

How many times have we read about Liverpool doing things "the Liverpool way" implying the right way how many times have we heard about United and there wonderful "youth system"

Now I realise that does not affect us as fans and of course it will not affect professionals within football such as players managers and corporate sponsors but the media is not trying to influence those people it is trying to influence the masses and this does affect City. The reason is that if we had a much more positive image of City portrayed about City in the media it would help to accelerate the worldwide appeal of City to fans

Now I know many "die-hard loyal true blue I was at York away" City fans may not like it but the club is trying to grow its fan-base worldwide and the negative perceptions reinforced and propagated within the media will not help that growth. I am not saying we wont get there because we will it just could be made quicker and easier

What one presenter, pundit or journalist writes in itself will not harm City its the drip drip constant stereotyping of the club that is not helping City. If anyone thinks that any publicity is better than none needs to do a google search of Ratners

Ha, yet just a few threads down people are moaning about the influx of such global fans.
All I would say if it is going on is, do we want fans who are swayed by such nonsense? I would say no. For every person who would read or listen to such bollocks and turn away, there will be plenty more who decide to follow us for whatever reason they choose.

So from your comments you agree that there is bollocks and nonsense being said
by the media . The reason why its important is financial. Fans like supporting successful clubs clearly but they also like to think there club does things the right way.

I would suggest City is not perceived in a good light by many neutral or new fans. But I am sure the club would like to attract those fans why because of financial reasons they will buy shirts etc and sponsors will pay more money if we are regarded as having a bigger fan base. If we sold more shirts in Asia etc we would get a bigger sponsorship deal with our next shirt sponsor and supplier so that is why it is important

Of course some fans will chose to support City anyway thats why I said our growth will happen its just the rate could be even faster if we could lessen the negative stereotype

 

[Esoterik]

If someone says City have no history I reply with: You mean we weren't winning when you were six years old so you didn't chose us as your team?

 

[Pigeonho]

I have never said there is a "conspiracy" nor for the record am I "paranoid" What I have stated is that the media constantly reinforce a negative stereotypical image of "moneybags" City

How many times have we read about Liverpool doing things "the Liverpool way" implying the right way how many times have we heard about United and there wonderful "youth system"

Now I realise that does not affect us as fans and of course it will not affect professionals within football such as players managers and corporate sponsors but the media is not trying to influence those people it is trying to influence the masses and this does affect City. The reason is that if we had a much more positive image of City portrayed about City in the media it would help to accelerate the worldwide appeal of City to fans

Now I know many "die-hard loyal true blue I was at York away" City fans may not like it but the club is trying to grow its fan-base worldwide and the negative perceptions reinforced and propagated within the media will not help that growth. I am not saying we wont get there because we will it just could be made quicker and easier

What one presenter, pundit or journalist writes in itself will not harm City its the drip drip constant stereotyping of the club that is not helping City. If anyone thinks that any publicity is better than none needs to do a google search of Ratners

Ha, yet just a few threads down people are moaning about the influx of such global fans.
All I would say if it is going on is, do we want fans who are swayed by such nonsense? I would say no. For every person who would read or listen to such bollocks and turn away, there will be plenty more who decide to follow us for whatever reason they choose.

So from your comments you agree that there is bollocks and nonsense being said
by the media . The reason why its important is financial. Fans like supporting successful clubs clearly but they also like to think there club does things the right way.

I would suggest City is not perceived in a good light by many neutral or new fans. But I am sure the club would like to attract those fans why because of financial reasons they will buy shirts etc and sponsors will pay more money if we are regarded as having a bigger fan base. If we sold more shirts in Asia etc we would get a bigger sponsorship deal with our next shirt sponsor and supplier so that is why it is important

Of course some fans will chose to support City anyway thats why I said our growth will happen its just the rate could be even faster if we could lessen the negative stereotype

I don't think there is bollocks and nonsense being said in the frequency people say it is on here, but I do think that there are bitters who will make snide comments, but don't we all do that in all walks of life anyway? Mills is one. He is bitter but at the end of the day, is Mills talking the odd bit of bollocks going to sway the Cheung family from China from supporting the club? I would say not.

On what other fans think, well only the weak-minded would allow themselves to be swayed by such comments and form a genuine, negative opinion of what's been said. If you read an article that Southampton's new signing, Pablo Osvaldo eats live chickens for his breakfast at 3am, would you instantly form a negative opinion of him and then Southampton for signing such a loony? Or would you look into it a bit more to see if the story is bollocks? Or would you just not care either way?

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Ray parlour is just a fucking ****...sorry but let him hate all he wants..

He tipped us for the title.

And I bet that hurt him to..Still a greasy chav tarquin...how much is he paying his ex wife per week..ouch...

 

[Pigeonho]

Ray parlour is just a fucking ****...sorry but let him hate all he wants..

He tipped us for the title.

And I bet that hurt him to..Still a greasy chav tarquin...how much is he paying his ex wife per week..ouch...

I wouldn't have thought so as it's not at the expense of his club as they have no chance. Parlour comes across as a regular fan, if not a bit dim, (though that's just his accent I would imagine).

 

[Sigh]

If someone says City have no history I reply with: You mean we weren't winning when you were six years old so you didn't chose us as your team?

 

[EricBrooksGhost]

If anyone thinks that any publicity is better than none needs to do a google search of Ratners

Crap!

Very good

 

[The Future's Blue]

How many people in the predictions threads have said this:
'Spurs are now a genuine contender for top 4', or something along those lines? Does the fact that nobody has said 'Spurs are now a genuine contender for top 4 again' mean that they are ignoring the fact they were there 3 seasons ago, or is it just because they are talking about the here and now with absolutely no intentions of dismissing that recent top 4 finish?
That is what Parlour did this morning, and I would say this is the only forum on the planet where people would have such a moan about something so trivial. It is an innocent a comment as you will ever hear and I doubt for one second that Parlour actually was dismissing any history we have, because the conversation isn't about then it's actually about now, and what we are doing now is challenging United for trophies. That is all it is.

Why are you getting so hooked up on protecting an ex-Arsenal players views and how do you know what he actually meant? You sound as though you need help mate, you seem to be defending anything and everything that is said against City.

As for your analogy, how many people have said Spurs were always in the lower divisions?

No need to answer, it's no good debating an issue without any give or take, it just comes across as people butting heads.

As many posts as I put like I do, there are a hundred more which counter my opinion. That is the point of the forum, isn't it? To discuss? You notice mine because they stand out more because i'm in the minority of believing there is no huge conspiracy, but that doesn't make the majority or the minority right, it just means we're discussing it. Now is that ok with you?

Also, it's nothing to do with defending an ex Arsenal player as I couldn't care less who it is or who he played for, the fact as far as I can see it is that he said what he said with no intentional malice to discredit our history, he was merely talking about the here and now and if the poodle-haired one was on this forum i'm sure he would say that was the case. That still wouldn't be enough for some though. Now, is it ok if I carry on discussing such things?

I'm not sure if you noticed but I didn't ask you to stop posting on any subject, I said there was no need to answer my post. As for your posts standing out, I don't think they do with regard to substance, it's more to do with the quantity and how you go against the grain with nearly every comment. In truth, I don't usually read them because I know exactly what they will say in relation to the thread but as you said, it's your opinion and you are free to air it.

You seem very touchy though, a little hyper, so I'll leave you to it. Defend away, you have my permission.

 

[Pigeonho]

Why are you getting so hooked up on protecting an ex-Arsenal players views and how do you know what he actually meant? You sound as though you need help mate, you seem to be defending anything and everything that is said against City.

As for your analogy, how many people have said Spurs were always in the lower divisions?

No need to answer, it's no good debating an issue without any give or take, it just comes across as people butting heads.

As many posts as I put like I do, there are a hundred more which counter my opinion. That is the point of the forum, isn't it? To discuss? You notice mine because they stand out more because i'm in the minority of believing there is no huge conspiracy, but that doesn't make the majority or the minority right, it just means we're discussing it. Now is that ok with you?

Also, it's nothing to do with defending an ex Arsenal player as I couldn't care less who it is or who he played for, the fact as far as I can see it is that he said what he said with no intentional malice to discredit our history, he was merely talking about the here and now and if the poodle-haired one was on this forum i'm sure he would say that was the case. That still wouldn't be enough for some though. Now, is it ok if I carry on discussing such things?

I'm not sure if you noticed but I didn't ask you to stop posting on any subject, I said there was no need to answer my post. As for your posts standing out, I don't think they do with regard to substance, it's more to do with the quantity and how you go against the grain with nearly every comment. In truth, I don't usually read them because I know exactly what they will say in relation to the thread but as you said, it's your opinion and you are free to air it.

You seem very touchy though, a little hyper, so I'll leave you to it. Defend away, you have my permission.

More than chilled my friend. Can in hand, cricket on and the sun is out. Cheers though. ;-)

 

[The Future's Blue]

As many posts as I put like I do, there are a hundred more which counter my opinion. That is the point of the forum, isn't it? To discuss? You notice mine because they stand out more because i'm in the minority of believing there is no huge conspiracy, but that doesn't make the majority or the minority right, it just means we're discussing it. Now is that ok with you?

Also, it's nothing to do with defending an ex Arsenal player as I couldn't care less who it is or who he played for, the fact as far as I can see it is that he said what he said with no intentional malice to discredit our history, he was merely talking about the here and now and if the poodle-haired one was on this forum i'm sure he would say that was the case. That still wouldn't be enough for some though. Now, is it ok if I carry on discussing such things?

I'm not sure if you noticed but I didn't ask you to stop posting on any subject, I said there was no need to answer my post. As for your posts standing out, I don't think they do with regard to substance, it's more to do with the quantity and how you go against the grain with nearly every comment. In truth, I don't usually read them because I know exactly what they will say in relation to the thread but as you said, it's your opinion and you are free to air it.

You seem very touchy though, a little hyper, so I'll leave you to it. Defend away, you have my permission.

More than chilled my friend. Can in hand, cricket on and the sun is out. Cheers though. ;-)

Good to hear, that's how it should be :)

 

[waspish]

As many posts as I put like I do, there are a hundred more which counter my opinion. That is the point of the forum, isn't it? To discuss? You notice mine because they stand out more because i'm in the minority of believing there is no huge conspiracy, but that doesn't make the majority or the minority right, it just means we're discussing it. Now is that ok with you?
Also, it's nothing to do with defending an ex Arsenal player as I couldn't care less who it is or who he played for, the fact as far as I can see it is that he said what he said with no intentional malice to discredit our history, he was merely talking about the here and now and if the poodle-haired one was on this forum i'm sure he would say that was the case. That still wouldn't be enough for some though. Now, is it ok if I carry on discussing such things?

-- Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:52 pm --


A PL title, an FA Cup, a Charity Shield, 1 great manager and the ability to attract another, as well as brilliant players from far and wide - I would say the club is in an excellent position, and that's not even including the recent sponsors who have come on-board. If there is some great conspiracy out there, it's not really doing it's job, is it?

I have never said there is a "conspiracy" nor for the record am I "paranoid" What I have stated is that the media constantly reinforce a negative stereotypical image of "moneybags" City

How many times have we read about Liverpool doing things "the Liverpool way" implying the right way how many times have we heard about United and there wonderful "youth system"

Now I realise that does not affect us as fans and of course it will not affect professionals within football such as players managers and corporate sponsors but the media is not trying to influence those people it is trying to influence the masses and this does affect City. The reason is that if we had a much more positive image of City portrayed about City in the media it would help to accelerate the worldwide appeal of City to fans

Now I know many "die-hard loyal true blue I was at York away" City fans may not like it but the club is trying to grow its fan-base worldwide and the negative perceptions reinforced and propagated within the media will not help that growth. I am not saying we wont get there because we will it just could be made quicker and easier

What one presenter, pundit or journalist writes in itself will not harm City its the drip drip constant stereotyping of the club that is not helping City. If anyone thinks that any publicity is better than none needs to do a google search of Ratners

Ha, yet just a few threads down people are moaning about the influx of such global fans.
All I would say if it is going on is, do we want fans who are swayed by such nonsense? I would say no. For every person who would read or listen to such bollocks and turn away, there will be plenty more who decide to follow us for whatever reason they choose.

In a way the "new man city fans" will be thick skinned and die hard so the Media are doing us a favour ;)

 

[Eccles Blue]

As many posts as I put like I do, there are a hundred more which counter my opinion. That is the point of the forum, isn't it? To discuss? You notice mine because they stand out more because i'm in the minority of believing there is no huge conspiracy, but that doesn't make the majority or the minority right, it just means we're discussing it. Now is that ok with you?

Also, it's nothing to do with defending an ex Arsenal player as I couldn't care less who it is or who he played for, the fact as far as I can see it is that he said what he said with no intentional malice to discredit our history, he was merely talking about the here and now and if the poodle-haired one was on this forum i'm sure he would say that was the case. That still wouldn't be enough for some though. Now, is it ok if I carry on discussing such things?

I'm not sure if you noticed but I didn't ask you to stop posting on any subject, I said there was no need to answer my post. As for your posts standing out, I don't think they do with regard to substance, it's more to do with the quantity and how you go against the grain with nearly every comment. In truth, I don't usually read them because I know exactly what they will say in relation to the thread but as you said, it's your opinion and you are free to air it.

You seem very touchy though, a little hyper, so I'll leave you to it. Defend away, you have my permission.

More than chilled my friend. Can in hand, cricket on and the sun is out. Cheers though. ;-)

What is this cricket? Is it an insect? Is it a hat if you have it on? Never heard of cricket, I am just raking over the ashes of the threads to see if I can find out what it is!! ;-)

 

[Pigeonho]

I'm not sure if you noticed but I didn't ask you to stop posting on any subject, I said there was no need to answer my post. As for your posts standing out, I don't think they do with regard to substance, it's more to do with the quantity and how you go against the grain with nearly every comment. In truth, I don't usually read them because I know exactly what they will say in relation to the thread but as you said, it's your opinion and you are free to air it.

You seem very touchy though, a little hyper, so I'll leave you to it. Defend away, you have my permission.

More than chilled my friend. Can in hand, cricket on and the sun is out. Cheers though. ;-)

What is this cricket? Is it an insect? Is it a hat if you have it on? Never heard of cricket, I am just raking over the ashes of the threads to see if I can find out what it is!! ;-)

I'm stumped mate, so i'm off to the Bail thread.

 

[squirtyflower]

More than chilled my friend. Can in hand, cricket on and the sun is out. Cheers though. ;-)

What is this cricket? Is it an insect? Is it a hat if you have it on? Never heard of cricket, I am just raking over the ashes of the threads to see if I can find out what it is!! ;-)

I'm stumped mate, so i'm off to the Bail thread.

can we stick to the topic?
we have to root out this problem, now trott off

 

[2sheikhs]

What is this cricket? Is it an insect? Is it a hat if you have it on? Never heard of cricket, I am just raking over the ashes of the threads to see if I can find out what it is!! ;-)

I'm stumped mate, so i'm off to the Bail thread.

can we stick to the topic?
we have to root out this problem, now trott off

Now there speaks a man who knows his onions.

 

[Pigeonho]

I'm stumped mate, so i'm off to the Bail thread.

can we stick to the topic?
we have to root out this problem, now trott off

Now there speaks a man who knows his onions.

Which is in Starc contrast to others on here.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

can we stick to the topic?
we have to root out this problem, now trott off

Now there speaks a man who knows his onions.

Which is in Starc contrast to others on here.

Someone will Cook up a situation and you will need Broad shoulders to argue against any conspiracy, Prior to any comments made.