Tevez For Eto'o...Straight Swap?

[yozzer]

he will have played in more champions league seasons than all our strikers put together i would guess.
.proven at the top level of knock out football.its a no brainer i think

 

[richards30]

surely if there was anything in this we would have spoke with inter about it in dublin????

 

[kippax neil]

This, this, this. Straight swap would be an awful idea.

This. I'm not bothered about what Tevez has done at West Ham and the rags or who he doesn't get on with. If we are selling him, we have to look at his age, his goalscoring record in the two years with us and the fact that he's got 3 years left on his contract.

His value is higher than any Inter player who has been linked with us.

Mate, what are you using to quantify Tevez's value ?

The club's value of the player.

 

[dave_blue12]

Samuel Eto'o !!!!!!!!!

Get it done !!!

Bye bye Carlos !

hope or info mate????

Sadly only hope.

Just don't understand people not wanting this deal to happen.

1.I want Tevez out of our club - too much trouble
2. Samuel Eto'o is one of the very best strikers in the world - better than Tevez - proven winner

If this is a real possibility what's not to like ? The age/money arguments don't wash with me. Everytime Tevez or Kia opens their gob his value goes down imho

 

[kennycar]

This thread highlights yet again the ignorance of many Tevez fans about his status in world football. He is currently 44th in the Castrol World Rankings. Having scored the same number of goals for Argentina as Aguero in twice the number of matches, he is at best the 3rd ranking of the Argentine strikers. He scored just 7 goals in 26 appearances for West Ham. Scoring 19 goals in 63 appearances for United, he was Ferguson's 3rd choice striker. From August 2009 to the end of November 2009, he scored just 2 premier league goals for City (both at home against West Ham).

From December 2009 to his transfer request in December 2010, he was, indeed, highly prolific. But it has to be noted that City's offensive strategy over that period was focused almost entirely on creating opportunities for him to score. He also did little to disguise his hostility towards the manager responsible for his most productive period ever.

Following the withdrawal of his transfer request, his goal contribution was nothing remarkable, though the desire to win the Golden Boot did bring out a special performance in the last match of the season. At the end of the day, he shared the Golden Boot with Berbatov, who did not take penalties and who would be ranked by most observers as United's 3rd best striker.

Way back in November 2009, Tevez talked to the Argentine media about retiring after the World Cup - yes, last summer. No doubt much to the consternation of Joorabchian, he has continued to talk about early retirement even with a transfer request on the table (this incidentally disproves the convenient fiction created by Tevez fans that Joorabchian is responsible for any and all of his aberrations).

The repeated assertion that, even if he is forced to stay at City, he will always give 100% is at best a half truth: he will give a 100% for himself. Conclusive proof that he sees other strikers as rivals was provided by the disgraceful way he froze out Edin Dzeko last season: he passed just half a dozen times in total to Edin in the Premier League games against Wolves, Birmingham, Manchester United, West Brom, Fulham and Liverpool (source: Guardian Chalkboard). (I know I have pointed this out a few times! But no Tevez fan has ever addressed it.)

Tevez is worth what other teams would pay for him. The idea that top clubs would be competing fiercely for Tevez this summer was always a delusion. But what is astonishing is that the penny has still not dropped with some Tevez fans. They are so blinkered that they want only that he stay, even though he himself is desperate to leave and even though his staying could seriously impact on the team spirit that has been evident since Vincent Kompany took over as captain.

In contrast, Samuel Eto'o has always been and still is a class act! Edin, Kun and Mario would all benefit from the experience of playing with him for two or three seasons. The whole squad would benefit from his experience at the highest levels.

Castrol world football what? I searched it up and that is the biggest pile of rubbish I've ever seen, Karim Benzema as second best player in the world?

Berbatov above Villa, Lampard above Xavi and Inesta. And If you're going to quote that, Eto'o is number 38, 17 places below Maxi Rodriguez. Let's get Maxi Rodriguez then. And if you're going to go off his form for Argentina, how shit is Messi?

I don't think it's fair to go off his form from 3 years ago either, we all know he started really performing a couple of months into his first season for us, but since then he hasn't looked back and neither should we.

When we had Anelka, we got rid of him partly because lot's of city fans thought we played better when Macken and Fowler were on the pitch, despite Anelka being our top scorer. Lots of fans would come out with statistics about win percentages because you can always find statistics to prove anything. Tevez was one of the best players at the world cup, but you've conveniently ignored that.

And lastly, I'm not surprised he didn't pass to Dzeko last season, Dzeko lost the ball instantly whenever he was passed to, now I like Dzeko, and I think he's gonna be a decent 2nd/3rd choice striker, but last season he was dog awful.

I'm not saying we should keep Tevez at all costs, but he is thought of very highly in Europe and we should get our money's worth. £45m at the very least. Eto'o isn't worth that at 30.

 

[Plain Speaking]

surely if there was anything in this we would have spoke with inter about it in dublin????

Perhaps they did have talks?
These deals take time!
Eto'o certainly appeared warm to the City players and fans ;-))

 

[lancs blue]

I'm not saying we should keep Tevez at all costs, but he is thought of very highly in Europe and we should get our money's worth. £45m at the very least. Eto'o isn't worth that at 30.

So highly thought of that not a single European club has put in a concrete bid for him since he made it clear he was available.

 

[BringBackSwales]

maybe the club arent interested in re-sale value on certain players mate?!?!?! if eto`o fires us to the premier league title and even possibly the champions league in the next 3 years then he would have well and truely covered any fee and wages!!! i personally think in our team he would be a goal scoring machine!!!

exactly mate; the payback from getting a winner in who could help fire us to PL and CL glory is huge - never mind the prize and tv revenue, just look how many chelsea shirts you see around these days compared to say 10 years ago. Then think of the incease in global awareness with one of the best players ever playing for us, and someone who is still at the top of his game. Additionally we would probably get to write off the £13M that is allegedly outstanding on Mario, and the wages saved v incurred would offset each other. 3-4 years out of someone focused who wants to take us forward, rather than someone who is self obsessed and causes so much trouble - I know which I would prefer. It would be a win win win win situation for me. Finally so what if he turned us down a couple of years ago - he seriously thought about us, and despite what we think we are not one of the world's biggest names YET, but we will be with players like Aguero and Etoo (in my opinion)

great minds think alike eh bud? ;-)

don't get linked with me mate it, will ruin your nice guy image big time!

-- Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:38 pm --

This, this, this. Straight swap would be an awful idea.

This. I'm not bothered about what Tevez has done at West Ham and the rags or who he doesn't get on with. If we are selling him, we have to look at his age, his goalscoring record in the two years with us and the fact that he's got 3 years left on his contract.

His value is higher than any Inter player who has been linked with us.

Mate, what are you using to quantify Tevez's value ?

whatever the theoretical value of Tevez as an asset is significantly impaired by his attitude - he regularly gives interviews saying:-

He is tired
He wants to retire soon
He wants to be near his family
He wants to return to Boca

Do you not think that parties who are interested in him as a player see these comments? Do you think they take no notice of them? The reality is that he is only worth what another party will pay for him and frankly his baggage means that £50M is ludicrous, £40M is unlikely, £30M is realistic. On that basis Etoo + a write off of say £13M re Mario for Tevez would be about the best we could REALISTICALLY expect. Etoo is the real deal in my view, and he brings us a more realistic chance of PL and CL glory, as well as a huge increase in awareness of our brand (and the income that goes with that) - so economically it makes good sense, and from a football prespetive it does too<br /><br />-- Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:41 pm --<br /><br />

30 is not old in the modern game. Advances in sports science and the medical and fitness facilities at elite clubs mean the mid to late 30s is acievable, even at the very top.
Look at the way the media wank over Giggs and Kevin Phillips.
Eto'o is better than both of them, one of the best global strikers of the last 30 years, and will still be banging them in at 34-45.
I would definitely take the deal with the write-off of the outstanding Mario debt.
The only thing that concerns me is ACON and the likelihood he would miss a month. Aren't there back to back ACON tournaments in consecutive years coming up as well?

I am assuming that 45 was a typo?

 

[gelly]

Eto'o is the man if City wants the Champions League. Tevez is very unstable is not worth 50 million for the crap clubs have to put up with.

 

[richards30]

Eto'o is the man if City wants the Champions League. Tevez is very unstable is not worth 50 million for the crap clubs have to put up with.

agreed!!! eto`o would be an immense signing!!!!