Tevez - staying or going?

okstate99 said:
jjeangi said:
simon23 said:
and i know this will raise a few eyebrows and ruffle a few feathers but Im not completely confident that RM will make the right choice with regards who to replace tevez....I pray he proves me wrong
Why?

Thats how he is.

i do share this worry a touch, his love for ibra, the interest in lavezzi and cavani. all 3 of them as a tevez replacement make me worried to be honest
 
Mancio said:
simon23 said:
Mancio said:
I bet you"d love ade back LOL

instead of dzeko...yes i would but those bridges have been burnt a long time ago.....

bet you love the fact that tevez is leaving.....which just goes to show again that you arent a city fan


the tevez leaving is the best thing of this summer. his leaving will finally create the team spirit and soul.

i really wonder how a level guy like you can fail to understand tevez acts were just slowing it.

there is a good chance that without his shit in december City coul have fight for the league.


there is also a good chance that come decemeber and missing his goals we could be out of the top 4.....noone knows for sure....

and im sorry but its upto the manager and coaching staff to create a team spirit and soul as you put it......Tolmie has already alluded to the fact that RM isnt bothered by tevez leaving as tevez had too much (and im not sure what the word Tolmie used was but im going for influence).......its clear right fromt he word go that RM didnt like tevez cause of this...yet instead of choosing to try and resolcve the problems both aliented each other....now from a managers position i can see why mancini might not want tevez....btu for the good of the team and how the team plays (which in the end is the most improtant thing)...then tevez is key...you only had to watch the last 20 or so mins vs spurs at the end of the season to see the difference he makes to the team

i dont care what anyone says....in terms of performances on the pitch....tevez leaving is a backwards step and he will take an awful lot of replacing....and the players we have at present are not upto the task<br /><br />-- Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:03 pm --<br /><br />
dref619 said:
okstate99 said:
jjeangi said:

Thats how he is.

i do share this worry a touch, his love for ibra, the interest in lavezzi and cavani. all 3 of them as a tevez replacement make me worried to be honest


thank you...thats exactly what i am talking about......i wouldnt want to se any of those at city at any time...and especially not as a replacement for tevez......
 
southern muppet said:
creaneysboss said:
P.S.G i think i asked skybet to add them to book opened at 16/1 now down to 10s not i.t.k or anything just using logic.

I suppose he'd certainly see Paris as an improvement on Manchester in terms of restaurants. Not really a better climate (less rain, but it's essentially just the same weather as London) and not as much of a 'Latin culture' as Italy or Spain though. Plus I'm guessing the leap between Spanish and French as languages is a lot bigger than between Spanish and Italian.

If they/he can't/won't learn English then they/he ain't going to learn French...
 
simon23 said:
Mancio said:
simon23 said:
instead of dzeko...yes i would but those bridges have been burnt a long time ago.....

bet you love the fact that tevez is leaving.....which just goes to show again that you arent a city fan


the tevez leaving is the best thing of this summer. his leaving will finally create the team spirit and soul.

i really wonder how a level guy like you can fail to understand tevez acts were just slowing it.

there is a good chance that without his shit in december City coul have fight for the league.


there is also a good chance that come decemeber and missing his goals we could be out of the top 4.....noone knows for sure....

and im sorry but its upto the manager and coaching staff to create a team spirit and soul as you put it......Tolmie has already alluded to the fact that RM isnt bothered by tevez leaving as tevez had too much (and im not sure what the word Tolmie used was but im going for influence).......its clear right fromt he word go that RM didnt like tevez cause of this...yet instead of choosing to try and resolcve the problems both aliented each other....now from a managers position i can see why mancini might not want tevez....btu for the good of the team and how the team plays (which in the end is the most improtant thing)...then tevez is key...you only had to watch the last 20 or so mins vs spurs at the end of the season to see the difference he makes to the team

i dont care what anyone says....in terms of performances on the pitch....tevez leaving is a backwards step and he will take an awful lot of replacing....and the players we have at present are not upto the task

if you dont care what anyone says why the hell you are still on a forum ??
 
simon23 said:
Mancio said:
simon23 said:
instead of dzeko...yes i would but those bridges have been burnt a long time ago.....

bet you love the fact that tevez is leaving.....which just goes to show again that you arent a city fan


the tevez leaving is the best thing of this summer. his leaving will finally create the team spirit and soul.

i really wonder how a level guy like you can fail to understand tevez acts were just slowing it.

there is a good chance that without his shit in december City coul have fight for the league.


there is also a good chance that come decemeber and missing his goals we could be out of the top 4.....noone knows for sure....

and im sorry but its upto the manager and coaching staff to create a team spirit and soul as you put it......Tolmie has already alluded to the fact that RM isnt bothered by tevez leaving as tevez had too much (and im not sure what the word Tolmie used was but im going for influence).......its clear right fromt he word go that RM didnt like tevez cause of this...yet instead of choosing to try and resolcve the problems both aliented each other....now from a managers position i can see why mancini might not want tevez....btu for the good of the team and how the team plays (which in the end is the most improtant thing)...then tevez is key...you only had to watch the last 20 or so mins vs spurs at the end of the season to see the difference he makes to the team

i dont care what anyone says....in terms of performances on the pitch....tevez leaving is a backwards step and he will take an awful lot of replacing....and the players we have at present are not upto the task

This is what I was talking about Simon. You are a very pessimistic poster, mate. ;-)

Mancio wasnt saying if we sold him in December (which isnt possible window was still closed 20 days after that transfer request). He was sayin if he kept his head up, and waited till this summer to ask for a request. We would been in the league title race down till the end, I agree with that but it cant be proven.

Second when Tevez was injured at Liverpool we played and beat UTD. And we played pretty well, without him. Yes his goals will be hard to replace but I think we will find a way to do it. Either with more scoring from our midfield or new strikers.

Just my opinion of course.
 
Mancio said:
simon23 said:
Mancio said:
the tevez leaving is the best thing of this summer. his leaving will finally create the team spirit and soul.

i really wonder how a level guy like you can fail to understand tevez acts were just slowing it.

there is a good chance that without his shit in december City coul have fight for the league.


there is also a good chance that come decemeber and missing his goals we could be out of the top 4.....noone knows for sure....

and im sorry but its upto the manager and coaching staff to create a team spirit and soul as you put it......Tolmie has already alluded to the fact that RM isnt bothered by tevez leaving as tevez had too much (and im not sure what the word Tolmie used was but im going for influence).......its clear right fromt he word go that RM didnt like tevez cause of this...yet instead of choosing to try and resolcve the problems both aliented each other....now from a managers position i can see why mancini might not want tevez....btu for the good of the team and how the team plays (which in the end is the most improtant thing)...then tevez is key...you only had to watch the last 20 or so mins vs spurs at the end of the season to see the difference he makes to the team

i dont care what anyone says....in terms of performances on the pitch....tevez leaving is a backwards step and he will take an awful lot of replacing....and the players we have at present are not upto the task

if you dont care what anyone says why the hell you are still on a forum ??

its just a term...a way of saying i dont agree with the idea that we are better without tevez despite what anyone says
 
okstate99 said:
simon23 said:
Mancio said:
the tevez leaving is the best thing of this summer. his leaving will finally create the team spirit and soul.

i really wonder how a level guy like you can fail to understand tevez acts were just slowing it.

there is a good chance that without his shit in december City coul have fight for the league.


there is also a good chance that come decemeber and missing his goals we could be out of the top 4.....noone knows for sure....

and im sorry but its upto the manager and coaching staff to create a team spirit and soul as you put it......Tolmie has already alluded to the fact that RM isnt bothered by tevez leaving as tevez had too much (and im not sure what the word Tolmie used was but im going for influence).......its clear right fromt he word go that RM didnt like tevez cause of this...yet instead of choosing to try and resolcve the problems both aliented each other....now from a managers position i can see why mancini might not want tevez....btu for the good of the team and how the team plays (which in the end is the most improtant thing)...then tevez is key...you only had to watch the last 20 or so mins vs spurs at the end of the season to see the difference he makes to the team

i dont care what anyone says....in terms of performances on the pitch....tevez leaving is a backwards step and he will take an awful lot of replacing....and the players we have at present are not upto the task

This is what I was talking about Simon. You are a very pessimistic poster, mate. ;-)

Mancio wasnt saying if we sold him in December (which isnt possible window was still closed 20 days after that transfer request). He was sayin if he kept his head up, and waited till this summer to ask for a request. We would been in the league title race down till the end, I agree with that but it cant be proven.

Second when Tevez was injured at Liverpool we played and beat UTD. And we played pretty well, without him. Yes his goals will be hard to replace but I think we will find a way to do it. Either with more scoring from our midfield or new strikers.

Just my opinion of course.

tevez's goals hard to be replaced ?? mate , this season he scored 14 open play goals , 14 , not 41

a couple more than dj campbell LOL
 
Mancio said:
tevez's goals hard to be replaced ?? mate , this season he scored 14 open play goals , 14 , not 41

a couple more than dj campbell LOL

Eto'o or Villa would score double that in this City side.
 
okstate99 said:
simon23 said:
Mancio said:
the tevez leaving is the best thing of this summer. his leaving will finally create the team spirit and soul.

i really wonder how a level guy like you can fail to understand tevez acts were just slowing it.

there is a good chance that without his shit in december City coul have fight for the league.


there is also a good chance that come decemeber and missing his goals we could be out of the top 4.....noone knows for sure....

and im sorry but its upto the manager and coaching staff to create a team spirit and soul as you put it......Tolmie has already alluded to the fact that RM isnt bothered by tevez leaving as tevez had too much (and im not sure what the word Tolmie used was but im going for influence).......its clear right fromt he word go that RM didnt like tevez cause of this...yet instead of choosing to try and resolcve the problems both aliented each other....now from a managers position i can see why mancini might not want tevez....btu for the good of the team and how the team plays (which in the end is the most improtant thing)...then tevez is key...you only had to watch the last 20 or so mins vs spurs at the end of the season to see the difference he makes to the team

i dont care what anyone says....in terms of performances on the pitch....tevez leaving is a backwards step and he will take an awful lot of replacing....and the players we have at present are not upto the task

This is what I was talking about Simon. You are a very pessimistic poster, mate. ;-)

Mancio wasnt saying if we sold him in December (which isnt possible window was still closed 20 days after that transfer request). He was sayin if he kept his head up, and waited till this summer to ask for a request. We would been in the league title race down till the end, I agree with that but it cant be proven.

Second when Tevez was injured at Liverpool we played and beat UTD. And we played pretty well, without him. Yes his goals will be hard to replace but I think we will find a way to do it. Either with more scoring from our midfield or new strikers.

Just my opinion of course.

there are a number of issues here..

1 i dont agree that we are a better team without tevez at present......the replacement would have to be world class and i for one cannt think of any striker id rather have in our team that is realistically available..

2. the names that mancini mentioned in the media the other day worry me....all very very average players...not fit to lace teves boots infact...and as i psted earlier his transfer record to date in my opinion has not been that good of you look at the list of 9 names i mentioned earlier

3. mancio isnt a city supporter...he is a balotelli and RM fan....from day one on this board he has single handedly had a vendetta against tevez....for the simple reason that RM didnt like the player and that also the fact that tevez plays means that balotellis chances of playing are reduced (though I actually think tevez and balo could form an excellent partnership together given the chance)

it has nothing to do with pessemism...losing tevez is a backwards step.....though i agree there is not much we can do about it as he clearly wants to leave and there are none footballing reasons for this that noone can do anything about......

but i also believe that the manager and the player share equal blame for the failure in this relationship.......tevez clearly has a problem with mancini and Mancini again has shown that he has too much of an ego to even contemplate trying to resolve the situation....and as Tomlie alluded to...he is playing us all and those comments the other day in the media about tevez were purely designed to begin this process that we are seeing take place now....<br /><br />-- Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:26 pm --<br /><br />
Mancio said:
okstate99 said:
simon23 said:
there is also a good chance that come decemeber and missing his goals we could be out of the top 4.....noone knows for sure....

and im sorry but its upto the manager and coaching staff to create a team spirit and soul as you put it......Tolmie has already alluded to the fact that RM isnt bothered by tevez leaving as tevez had too much (and im not sure what the word Tolmie used was but im going for influence).......its clear right fromt he word go that RM didnt like tevez cause of this...yet instead of choosing to try and resolcve the problems both aliented each other....now from a managers position i can see why mancini might not want tevez....btu for the good of the team and how the team plays (which in the end is the most improtant thing)...then tevez is key...you only had to watch the last 20 or so mins vs spurs at the end of the season to see the difference he makes to the team

i dont care what anyone says....in terms of performances on the pitch....tevez leaving is a backwards step and he will take an awful lot of replacing....and the players we have at present are not upto the task

This is what I was talking about Simon. You are a very pessimistic poster, mate. ;-)

Mancio wasnt saying if we sold him in December (which isnt possible window was still closed 20 days after that transfer request). He was sayin if he kept his head up, and waited till this summer to ask for a request. We would been in the league title race down till the end, I agree with that but it cant be proven.

Second when Tevez was injured at Liverpool we played and beat UTD. And we played pretty well, without him. Yes his goals will be hard to replace but I think we will find a way to do it. Either with more scoring from our midfield or new strikers.

Just my opinion of course.

tevez's goals hard to be replaced ?? mate , this season he scored 14 open play goals , 14 , not 41

a couple more than dj campbell LOL

and how many did anyone else score from open play????????
 
simon23 said:
okstate99 said:
simon23 said:
there is also a good chance that come decemeber and missing his goals we could be out of the top 4.....noone knows for sure....

and im sorry but its upto the manager and coaching staff to create a team spirit and soul as you put it......Tolmie has already alluded to the fact that RM isnt bothered by tevez leaving as tevez had too much (and im not sure what the word Tolmie used was but im going for influence).......its clear right fromt he word go that RM didnt like tevez cause of this...yet instead of choosing to try and resolcve the problems both aliented each other....now from a managers position i can see why mancini might not want tevez....btu for the good of the team and how the team plays (which in the end is the most improtant thing)...then tevez is key...you only had to watch the last 20 or so mins vs spurs at the end of the season to see the difference he makes to the team

i dont care what anyone says....in terms of performances on the pitch....tevez leaving is a backwards step and he will take an awful lot of replacing....and the players we have at present are not upto the task

This is what I was talking about Simon. You are a very pessimistic poster, mate. ;-)

Mancio wasnt saying if we sold him in December (which isnt possible window was still closed 20 days after that transfer request). He was sayin if he kept his head up, and waited till this summer to ask for a request. We would been in the league title race down till the end, I agree with that but it cant be proven.

Second when Tevez was injured at Liverpool we played and beat UTD. And we played pretty well, without him. Yes his goals will be hard to replace but I think we will find a way to do it. Either with more scoring from our midfield or new strikers.

Just my opinion of course.

there are a number of issues here..

1 i dont agree that we are a better team without tevez at present......the replacement would have to be world class and i for one cannt think of any striker id rather have in our team that is realistically available..

2. the names that mancini mentioned in the media the other day worry me....all very very average players...not fit to lace teves boots infact...and as i psted earlier his transfer record to date in my opinion has not been that good of you look at the list of 9 names i mentioned earlier

3. mancio isnt a city supporter...he is a balotelli and RM fan....from day one on this board he has single handedly had a vendetta against tevez....for the simple reason that RM didnt like the player and that also the fact that tevez plays means that balotellis chances of playing are reduced (though I actually think tevez and balo could form an excellent partnership together given the chance)

it has nothing to do with pessemism...losing tevez is a backwards step.....though i agree there is not much we can do about it as he clearly wants to leave and there are none footballing reasons for this that noone can do anything about......

but i also believe that the manager and the player share equal blame for the failure in this relationship.......tevez clearly has a problem with mancini and Mancini again has shown that he has too much of an ego to even contemplate trying to resolve the situation....and as Tomlie alluded to...he is playing us all and those comments the other day in the media about tevez were purely designed to begin this process that we are seeing take place now....

you better stop write shit mate. AFAIK and as for as EVERYBODY can find out tevez always stated he has problems with City officials and NOT with the manager !

you are free to like or not what you want but is really unfair write false shit
 

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