Tevez - Whats the latest?

[Danamy]

Tolm,
Not sure I agree with you here.

We all know Mancini has a reputation as being headstrong & extremely stubborn. His post Munich interview showed his frustration with Tevez - stating he had done everything for him 'for 2 years'. I don't imaging Mancini has ever been forced to go to such lengths to placate a player before.

Now Bobbys hand is much stronger - FA cup, CL & Cook gone - and still he calls Tevez to arrange a meeting.

To me, it appears as is him being pragmatic & genuinely attempting to make the best of a bad situation, & Carlos being the petulant one.

To read yours & some other comments on here, if Bobby sticks to his guns he's distant, incalcintrant & obstinate.

If he holds out an olive branch, he's weak & in some way accepting he's in the wrong, thus undermining the whole disciplinary process.

Why is it such a bollock?

You have me confused with others. I have completely backed Mancini's stance over Tevez and his continued hard line with ALL players.

He is wrong in my eyes because he has undermined himself and City with a softening of his stance.

It's a sign of weakness (certainly in relation to who were dealing with) and one which the Tevez camp were quick to act upon.

Apologies for mis interpreting your stance.

However, my point remains that I dont see this as a negative in any respect. It is totally separate from the disciplinary proceedings. It was just Bobby trying to sort out training etc. I don't see it as weakness, nor as retreating from his position. IMO it looks like he's being the good guy & Tevez is the stroppy one.

Kia may try to spin it another way but, as you have eluded to previously, he is running out of friends & credibility.

If it was training issues it should of been sorted out at Carrington........closed doors!

When will we learn?

 

[stony]

To be honest, it is personal for me.

Tevez has taken the piss out of the club I have supported for 30-plus years, too many times.

I have been privvy to some of the strokes these bastards have pulled in recent years.

Don't give them any oxygen to use whatsoever.

So Tevez and Joorabchian have done more than what's already been reported in the media?

I've been on here a while, so few may actually recall the phrase I used in some long-winded shite I posted, way back.

I said we had a 'Cancer in the club'

They are responsible for every leak and dressing room fight which has been reported under Roberto's stewardship.

That includes supposed player wages, Garry Cook's demise, everything.

That cancer needs to be cut out as soon as possible. There was a time we needed him but not any more.
I can't think of a single city fan who wants him to stay.
Just a shame we didn't get rid sooner. I'd rather have waited a couple more years for success than have that twat anywhere near city.

 

[cibaman]

You have me confused with others. I have completely backed Mancini's stance over Tevez and his continued hard line with ALL players.

He is wrong in my eyes because he has undermined himself and City with a softening of his stance.

It's a sign of weakness (certainly in relation to who were dealing with) and one which the Tevez camp were quick to act upon.

Apologies for mis interpreting your stance.

However, my point remains that I dont see this as a negative in any respect. It is totally separate from the disciplinary proceedings. It was just Bobby trying to sort out training etc. I don't see it as weakness, nor as retreating from his position. IMO it looks like he's being the good guy & Tevez is the stroppy one.

Kia may try to spin it another way but, as you have eluded to previously, he is running out of friends & credibility.

If it was training issues it should of been sorted out at Carrington........closed doors!

When will we learn?

Carrington seems a bit lacking when it comes to closed doors. The suggestion that Mancini was trying to avoid a public confrontation in full view of the media actually seems quite plausible to me.

 

[Plain Speaking]

Just a shame we didn't get rid sooner. I'd rather have waited a couple more years for success than have that twat anywhere near city.

I cant agree with that. It seems an extreme attitude. Our fans have waited for some success for long enough.

 

[oakiecokie]

Just a shame we didn't get rid sooner. I'd rather have waited a couple more years for success than have that twat anywhere near city.

I cant agree with that. It seems an extreme attitude. Our fans have waited for some success for long enough.

I agree with you.If we had waited any longer,players like Silva,Yaya and the likes wouldn`t be here now.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I'd rather have waited a couple more years for success than have that twat anywhere near city.

Absolutely laughed at that.

As if there is a single City fan the length and breadth of the world who shares that opinion.

For what it's worth, the more I think about this the more I respect Mancini for attempting to resolve things, whether as a facade or for real. That with the big caviat of course that it doesn't compromise us legally in the case of things going nuclear.

 

[stony]

Just a shame we didn't get rid sooner. I'd rather have waited a couple more years for success than have that twat anywhere near city.

I cant agree with that. It seems an extreme attitude. Our fans have waited for some success for long enough.

On a personal level a couple of more years wouldn't have hurt.<br /><br />-- Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:38 pm --<br /><br />

I'd rather have waited a couple more years for success than have that twat anywhere near city.

Absolutely laughed at that.

As if there is a single City fan the length and breadth of the world who shares that opinion.

Speaking for every City fan in the world now Dave ?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Just a shame we didn't get rid sooner. I'd rather have waited a couple more years for success than have that twat anywhere near city.

I cant agree with that. It seems an extreme attitude. Our fans have waited for some success for long enough.

On a personal level a couple of more years wouldn't have hurt.

-- Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:38 pm --

I'd rather have waited a couple more years for success than have that twat anywhere near city.

Absolutely laughed at that.

As if there is a single City fan the length and breadth of the world who shares that opinion.

Speaking for every City fan in the world now Dave ?

I'd say yes, on this issue. It's a nonsense point anyway.

 

[Danamy]

Apologies for mis interpreting your stance.

However, my point remains that I dont see this as a negative in any respect. It is totally separate from the disciplinary proceedings. It was just Bobby trying to sort out training etc. I don't see it as weakness, nor as retreating from his position. IMO it looks like he's being the good guy & Tevez is the stroppy one.

Kia may try to spin it another way but, as you have eluded to previously, he is running out of friends & credibility.

If it was training issues it should of been sorted out at Carrington........closed doors!

When will we learn?

Carrington seems a bit lacking when it comes to closed doors. The suggestion that Mancini was trying to avoid a public confrontation in full view of the media actually seems quite plausible to me.

He should of told him to report to his office at Carrington on his first morning back to put him in the picture of his itinerary.

No room for spin or concern, everything played out as normal.

I'm with Tolm on this as this has given the snake something else to feed off, i think a lot on here are underestimating Kia, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Anonymous]

In a disciplinary at work, if a manager wanted to get you out the company, he/she has to prove all reasonable attempts at resolving the issue have been made, with the last resort being "off you pop".

I read all this as Mancini further strengthening his position personally. He can demonstrate he had gone over there and offered him the chance to return to training by simply offering an apology. Tevez refused.

Game over?