tolmie's hairdoo said:jimbo101 said:tolmie's hairdoo said:You have me confused with others. I have completely backed Mancini's stance over Tevez and his continued hard line with ALL players.
He is wrong in my eyes because he has undermined himself and City with a softening of his stance.
It's a sign of weakness (certainly in relation to who were dealing with) and one which the Tevez camp were quick to act upon.
Apologies for mis interpreting your stance.
However, my point remains that I dont see this as a negative in any respect. It is totally separate from the disciplinary proceedings. It was just Bobby trying to sort out training etc. I don't see it as weakness, nor as retreating from his position. IMO it looks like he's being the good guy & Tevez is the stroppy one.
Kia may try to spin it another way but, as you have eluded to previously, he is running out of friends & credibility.
We'll have to disagree, mate. Mancini needs to be consistent in his ruthless approach here.
We are dealing with devils, scum of the earth when it comes to football politics - let's not forget what this lot have done for Garry Cook in recent weeks.
People are well within their rights to not see any negatives in such a meet, but we are on here discussing it, the papers have splashed their back pages with it and Sky and rolling updates.
We don't need this. We have three huge games in a week and I would love to know who at City didn't think a midnight meet at the home of our manager would not have been leaked by the Joorabachian spin machine?
Tevez could have had the same conversation within the confines of the manager's office yesterday. All the players had gone home.
The fact it was conducted at Mancini's house is the issue for me. It shows a 'personal' olive branch to someone who should have it shoved up his arse.
Whilst I agree that I would have personally shoved it up his arse, I feel that this offer, coming from Mancini, paints him in an altogether better light & goes against all the negative streotypes currently employed against him.
For someone who is supposed to be distant from the players with questionable man management skills, this is quite a statement. It also is totally separate from the disciplinary proceedings.
I agree, a properly club sanctioned meeting would have had the same outcome - Tevez refusing - but it would have been leaked & built up by camps with vested interests.
Do you feel Mancini's own media manipulation skills are being somewhat underestimated?