That There London

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Yes but the general surrounds of it as well like Harrow and Greenford maybe Cricklewood

I thought Harrow was posh as fuck?

Some parts of Harrow borough are 'posh' and, of course, one of the most famous fee-paying schools shares its name. However, the town is a godforsaken shithole.

Acton's worse. And Park Royal. Possibly the most depressing brewery tour in Britain in its day (Guinness) iirc.

 

[burning blue soul]

Without the hegemony of London in recent years and its appeal to foreign high net-worth people, this country would be utterly fucked.

glossing nicely over the dismantling of our manufacturing base so 'the other Britain' can live off the greedy bankers hand outs......splendid!!!

the place (and way of life) is not nice and i would never live there, no matter what.

I haven't glossed over anything. I have painted the picture as it is, not how it used to be.

The fact is that our manufacturing base was dismantled, partly due to a lack of government planning and partly due to our lack of competitiveness and industrial dexterity. I concede that is not an ideal state of affairs, but if you accept it as fact then the reality is that without the gravitational pull of one of the world's great cities, the cuts since 2008 would have been even more severe. London is, economically, our greatest asset.

The fact that you have no desire to live there does little to alter that fact.

deary, you need to take off those banker coloured glasses and check the reality. london has absorbed a lot of the economic strength of the provinces and now looks back at the rest of us with a pitying disdain for our plight and graciously hands out free money to help the poor people of the north.
london grew as the rest of this historic country was purposely decayed and we are supposed to applaud this?

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

I haven't glossed over anything. I have painted the picture as it is, not how it used to be.

The fact is that our manufacturing base was dismantled, partly due to a lack of government planning and partly due to our lack of competitiveness and industrial dexterity. I concede that is not an ideal state of affairs, but if you accept it as fact then the reality is that without the gravitational pull of one of the world's great cities, the cuts since 2008 would have been even more severe. London is, economically, our greatest asset.

The fact that you have no desire to live there does little to alter that fact.

Not called the Capital of the World for nothing

People are blinkered.

It's wank.

Still whats is called though. Not a big fan would rather be in my home town with my mates but this is where the work is and most people seem to like it. Never be stuck for something to do, has amazing architecture and stories and everything is overpriced to an almost ridiculous point.

 

[Anonymous]

Not called the Capital of the World for nothing

People are blinkered.

It's wank.

Still whats is called though. Not a big fan would rather be in my home town with my mates but this is where the work is and most people seem to like it. Never be stuck for something to do, has amazing architecture and stories and everything is overpriced to an almost ridiculous point.

old trafford is called "the theatre of dreams" apparently. same applies, they're both a big bag of balls.

 

[adrian99]

What has made the divide worse is that labour created 750k public sector jobs mainly up north so the cuts in those jobs hurt the north more

Which is true Ronnie, however in terms of redistribution is was not a bad way of doing it, if you think that people in jobs tend to spend money which then supports the rest of the local economy, for instance here on the Fylde if you decimated the public sector (the Largest employers are all Public Sector organisations) the rest of the economy would suffer, a bit like a mining town when the pit closes!

I think the answer (in my opinion) is to have much lower taxes in the North, there was a case study done about Hull a town that has had countless millions thrown at it but is still blighted by unemployment , it should be prosperous but it's not, the author said it would have been cheaper just making the whole town a low to zero tax zone businesses would flock there!

This for me this is the answer to the north south divide, reduce NI for employees and employers to zero if necessary to move the jobs. Set income tax at lower levels in areas where we want to create jobs. Do the same with council tax. Reduce corporation tax for companies headquartered outside of the London and SE. Tax is the best weapon to deploy as businesses will move to where it is most cost effective, call centers to India proved this.

In addition I would increase NI for employees and employers in London as it costs far more to provide public services down there.

 

[Feed-The-Goat]

People are blinkered.

It's wank.

Still whats is called though. Not a big fan would rather be in my home town with my mates but this is where the work is and most people seem to like it. Never be stuck for something to do, has amazing architecture and stories and everything is overpriced to an almost ridiculous point.

old trafford is called "the theatre of dreams" apparently. same applies, they're both a big bag of balls.

Nailed it.

 

[Manc in London]

deary, you need to take off those banker coloured glasses and check the reality. london has absorbed a lot of the economic strength of the provinces and now looks back at the rest of us with a pitying disdain for our plight and graciously hands out free money to help the poor people of the north.
london grew as the rest of this historic country was purposely decayed and we are supposed to applaud this?

With that level of self-pity, I can only assume you spend too much time with scousers ;)

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

People are blinkered.

It's wank.

Still whats is called though. Not a big fan would rather be in my home town with my mates but this is where the work is and most people seem to like it. Never be stuck for something to do, has amazing architecture and stories and everything is overpriced to an almost ridiculous point.

old trafford is called "the theatre of dreams" apparently. same applies, they're both a big bag of balls.

Meh your argument is not a good one
the rags named there own stadium

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

glossing nicely over the dismantling of our manufacturing base so 'the other Britain' can live off the greedy bankers hand outs......splendid!!!

the place (and way of life) is not nice and i would never live there, no matter what.

I haven't glossed over anything. I have painted the picture as it is, not how it used to be.

The fact is that our manufacturing base was dismantled, partly due to a lack of government planning and partly due to our lack of competitiveness and industrial dexterity. I concede that is not an ideal state of affairs, but if you accept it as fact then the reality is that without the gravitational pull of one of the world's great cities, the cuts since 2008 would have been even more severe. London is, economically, our greatest asset.

The fact that you have no desire to live there does little to alter that fact.

deary, you need to take off those banker coloured glasses and check the reality. london has absorbed a lot of the economic strength of the provinces and now looks back at the rest of us with a pitying disdain for our plight and graciously hands out free money to help the poor people of the north.
london grew as the rest of this historic country was purposely decayed and we are supposed to applaud this?

Banker coloured? Can't seem to find it on here:

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Can you name me a time when London didn't dominate this country, as your post appears to be suggesting?

 

[Manc in London]

Reduce corporation tax for companies headquartered outside of the London and SE.

The previous government set-up numerous schemes to improve employment levels in areas across the country - Future Jobs Fund and Working Neighbourhoods Fund, among others. Manchester, and the surrounding areas, received £Ms. I suggest you ask the relevant authorities about what happened to that money.

In addition I would increase NI for employees and employers in London as it costs far more to provide public services down there.

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I thought Harrow was posh as fuck?

Some parts of Harrow borough are 'posh' and, of course, one of the most famous fee-paying schools shares its name. However, the town is a godforsaken shithole.

Acton's worse. And Park Royal. Possibly the most depressing brewery tour in Britain in its day (Guinness) iirc.

Fair enough but I raise you Elephant and Castle, Peckham, Walthamstow and Bow