The are we allowed the "it's quiet" thread yet? thread.

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I don't think it is a lack of believe in Pep, I think peoples issues are they have watched this group of players seriously underperform for 2 years and may be worried that as good as Pep is it would be too much of an ask to expect miracles quickly without a few more quality additions.

If we started the season with this squad I would be worried too even though I believe Pep is the best manager in the world.
 
I don't think it is a lack of believe in Pep, I think peoples issues are they have watched this group of players seriously underperform for 2 years and may be worried that as good as Pep is it would be too much of an ask to expect miracles quickly without a few more quality additions.

If we started the season with this squad I would be worried too even though I believe Pep is the best manager in the world.
Exactly,we need 3 more players that will improve our starting 11. Gundogen if fit will do that but it will take more than the likes of Stones,Nolito and Zinchenko. Guardiola is the best out there but he's no miracle worker.
 
Exactly,we need 3 more players that will improve our starting 11. Gundogen if fit will do that but it will take more than the likes of Stones,Nolito and Zinchenko. Guardiola is the best out there but he's no miracle worker.

So with Leroy Sane it would be two more players required by the end of the window, right? Sounds reasonable.
 
I don't think it is a lack of believe in Pep, I think peoples issues are they have watched this group of players seriously underperform for 2 years and may be worried that as good as Pep is it would be too much of an ask to expect miracles quickly without a few more quality additions.

If we started the season with this squad I would be worried too even though I believe Pep is the best manager in the world.

This is my point. Pep is without a doubt the world's best manager but even he'll have his hands full with these players as it is. What baffles me is how once the season ends everyone seemingly forgets a players woeful season and puts blind faith that they'll become brilliant. It happens every year with Nasri, Yaya and Kolarov.
 
This is my point. Pep is without a doubt the world's best manager but even he'll have his hands full with these players as it is. What baffles me is how once the season ends everyone seemingly forgets a players woeful season and puts blind faith that they'll become brilliant. It happens every year with Nasri, Yaya and Kolarov.

Nasri is an odd one, he done ok when he came back but because he was out injured for so long people seemed to forget the shift/performances he would put in. I am hopeful under Pep a lot of these players up their game and improve but currently we wont be as dominant as some may think.
 
This is my point. Pep is without a doubt the world's best manager but even he'll have his hands full with these players as it is. What baffles me is how once the season ends everyone seemingly forgets a players woeful season and puts blind faith that they'll become brilliant. It happens every year with Nasri, Yaya and Kolarov.

The problem is that quite a few City fans have forgotten how football traditionally works & have become obsessed with spending money, every year.

Bringing players through or actually improving or rehabilitating players we actually have, or building a side over more than one season, has become some kind of ridiculous notion, rather than being the traditional way most top managers actually do it.

We expect to buy a largely new team every year, yet when we actually look at the City side, it's mostly the players who the team was built around in the first place, who learned to play together, who are actually still the people we rely on. Some of them signed for not much money.

If Pep can't improve the players, or bring players through, we have completely wasted 3 years waiting for him. And if we can't give him a season to suss his players out & rebuild the squad, without shitting our pants, we don't deserve him.
 
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