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mancity dan
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Anyone know what time the ring walk is for Quigg v Frampton?
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worsleyweb
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Mrs WW is on her "irrational spell" this weekend so decided to avoid the inevitable row and go to both the boxing and the final.
Proper lads weekend. Cant wait.
Proper lads weekend. Cant wait.
blue mash up
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Mrs WW is on her "irrational spell" this weekend so decided to avoid the inevitable row and go to both the boxing and the final.
Proper lads weekend. Cant wait.
Wish i'd done that now but i'm keeping my missus sweet and cooking her a meal on Saturday as she will be putting me to bed after i arrive back from Wembley and waking me up for work.
Quigg's a nice lad and good luck to him but I can't believe that some people have this fight as a pick em. I believe this is based purely on the over reaction to Quigg's fight v Martinez. Carl's available at 1.7 ish on the markets which for me is massive.
Rumour has it that Frampton is tight at the weight (LEIGHTON - any inside info ?? ) but ignoring that and just going on past fights I think Carl's a level above.
People are making a big deal of Quigg v Kiko. I thought Quigg looked troubled in the 1st rd, a lot moreso than you'd expect a genuine world class operator to. Him and Gallagher can bang on about setting a trap for Kiko and maybe they did but that trap did not involve looking out of his depth in the 1st rd.
People compare Quigg's quick stoppage of kiko with Frampton's much harder battles against Kiko and simplistically think it's a good formline. It isn't ...........
Frampton v Kiko 2 was in Sep2014. Kiko gave a really good acount of himself but lost decisively on points. He then had one keep busy fight before facing Quigg in July 2015. In the period between Sep14 and Jul15 Quigg had one notable victory over Otake - a good win but not one which enhanced his reputation massively. But, and here's the crucial piece of info, whereas Frampton's price at the off v Kiko was 1.5 ish, Quigg's price was 1.25ish. Ergo the market rated Quigg twice as likely as Carl to beat Kiko in their respective fights.
There was no talk of Kiko having a bad camp before quigg or of any injuries or personal troubles which may have affected him but still Quigg's price was so low because the market regarded Kiko as shot. Beating a shot fighter doesn't imo give Quigg near parity with Carl and hence I think the prices are all wrong.
I think Carl outboxes Quigg comprehensively and walks him on to one in the middle rounds.
Rumour has it that Frampton is tight at the weight (LEIGHTON - any inside info ?? ) but ignoring that and just going on past fights I think Carl's a level above.
People are making a big deal of Quigg v Kiko. I thought Quigg looked troubled in the 1st rd, a lot moreso than you'd expect a genuine world class operator to. Him and Gallagher can bang on about setting a trap for Kiko and maybe they did but that trap did not involve looking out of his depth in the 1st rd.
People compare Quigg's quick stoppage of kiko with Frampton's much harder battles against Kiko and simplistically think it's a good formline. It isn't ...........
Frampton v Kiko 2 was in Sep2014. Kiko gave a really good acount of himself but lost decisively on points. He then had one keep busy fight before facing Quigg in July 2015. In the period between Sep14 and Jul15 Quigg had one notable victory over Otake - a good win but not one which enhanced his reputation massively. But, and here's the crucial piece of info, whereas Frampton's price at the off v Kiko was 1.5 ish, Quigg's price was 1.25ish. Ergo the market rated Quigg twice as likely as Carl to beat Kiko in their respective fights.
There was no talk of Kiko having a bad camp before quigg or of any injuries or personal troubles which may have affected him but still Quigg's price was so low because the market regarded Kiko as shot. Beating a shot fighter doesn't imo give Quigg near parity with Carl and hence I think the prices are all wrong.
I think Carl outboxes Quigg comprehensively and walks him on to one in the middle rounds.
ell
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Quigg's a nice lad and good luck to him but I can't believe that some people have this fight as a pick em. I believe this is based purely on the over reaction to Quigg's fight v Martinez. Carl's available at 1.7 ish on the markets which for me is massive.
Rumour has it that Frampton is tight at the weight (LEIGHTON - any inside info ?? ) but ignoring that and just going on past fights I think Carl's a level above.
People are making a big deal of Quigg v Kiko. I thought Quigg looked troubled in the 1st rd, a lot moreso than you'd expect a genuine world class operator to. Him and Gallagher can bang on about setting a trap for Kiko and maybe they did but that trap did not involve looking out of his depth in the 1st rd.
People compare Quigg's quick stoppage of kiko with Frampton's much harder battles against Kiko and simplistically think it's a good formline. It isn't ...........
Frampton v Kiko 2 was in Sep2014. Kiko gave a really good acount of himself but lost decisively on points. He then had one keep busy fight before facing Quigg in July 2015. In the period between Sep14 and Jul15 Quigg had one notable victory over Otake - a good win but not one which enhanced his reputation massively. But, and here's the crucial piece of info, whereas Frampton's price at the off v Kiko was 1.5 ish, Quigg's price was 1.25ish. Ergo the market rated Quigg twice as likely as Carl to beat Kiko in their respective fights.
There was no talk of Kiko having a bad camp before quigg or of any injuries or personal troubles which may have affected him but still Quigg's price was so low because the market regarded Kiko as shot. Beating a shot fighter doesn't imo give Quigg near parity with Carl and hence I think the prices are all wrong.
I think Carl outboxes Quigg comprehensively and walks him on to one in the middle rounds.
I don't think its the Quigg Kiko fight thats put question marks on this fight, more to do with Frampton getting dropped twice in the first round on the same night!
I've heard similar rumours but Leighton might be better placed for that one, I know he struggled for the fight in America but he blamed the Texas weather If I remember correctly.
Adidas Sharston
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Quigg's a nice lad and good luck to him but I can't believe that some people have this fight as a pick em. I believe this is based purely on the over reaction to Quigg's fight v Martinez. Carl's available at 1.7 ish on the markets which for me is massive.
Rumour has it that Frampton is tight at the weight (LEIGHTON - any inside info ?? ) but ignoring that and just going on past fights I think Carl's a level above.
People are making a big deal of Quigg v Kiko. I thought Quigg looked troubled in the 1st rd, a lot moreso than you'd expect a genuine world class operator to. Him and Gallagher can bang on about setting a trap for Kiko and maybe they did but that trap did not involve looking out of his depth in the 1st rd.
People compare Quigg's quick stoppage of kiko with Frampton's much harder battles against Kiko and simplistically think it's a good formline. It isn't ...........
Frampton v Kiko 2 was in Sep2014. Kiko gave a really good acount of himself but lost decisively on points. He then had one keep busy fight before facing Quigg in July 2015. In the period between Sep14 and Jul15 Quigg had one notable victory over Otake - a good win but not one which enhanced his reputation massively. But, and here's the crucial piece of info, whereas Frampton's price at the off v Kiko was 1.5 ish, Quigg's price was 1.25ish. Ergo the market rated Quigg twice as likely as Carl to beat Kiko in their respective fights.
There was no talk of Kiko having a bad camp before quigg or of any injuries or personal troubles which may have affected him but still Quigg's price was so low because the market regarded Kiko as shot. Beating a shot fighter doesn't imo give Quigg near parity with Carl and hence I think the prices are all wrong.
I think Carl outboxes Quigg comprehensively and walks him on to one in the middle rounds.
I like Scott Quigg but cant stand Joe Gallagher. I expect Quigg to come out & put it on Frampton from the off, fantastic energy levels and hits harder than Carl. I just think Frampton has a better shot selection and will tick off the rounds after a close start. Quigg will obviously look for the KO but risks leaving himself open to the counter, a shot Frampton will be looking for.
Was at the trafford centre tuesday and a few mentioned Carls weight, before he came out. Looked in great shape to me, maybe some truth in it, or could just be Quiggs camp stirring the pot after his fight in Texas.
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SuperKevinHorlock
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The press conference was comical today-cannot believe the fall out over who gets the 'home' dressing room! I'm looking forward to the fight but some of the behaviour on both sides has been pretty poor!
Bad blood wasn't needed to sell this fight imo.
Bad blood wasn't needed to sell this fight imo.
Adidas Sharston
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The press conference was comical today-cannot believe the fall out over who gets the 'home' dressing room! I'm looking forward to the fight but some of the behaviour on both sides has been pretty poor!
Bad blood wasn't needed to sell this fight imo.
The weigh-in will be interesting, especially if Carl is struggling to make weight. Apparently, Frampton's team have sent back 500 tickets. If true, there could be Quigg fans mixed in as they've split the arena, 10k tickets each.
SuperKevinHorlock
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The weigh-in will be interesting, especially if Carl is struggling to make weight. Apparently, Frampton's team have sent back 500 tickets. If true, there could be Quigg fans mixed in as they've split the arena, 10k tickets each.
Good chance of trouble as there seems to be at most boxing occasions nowadays sadly.
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worsleyweb
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Where is the weigh in? Might go down?
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worsleyweb
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Good chance of trouble as there seems to be at most boxing occasions nowadays sadly.
That's what puts me off the live shows. Imagine 20000 have just watched rocky and taken coke and then see Ivan dragon banging their Mrs. Recipe for disaster.
SuperKevinHorlock
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That's what puts me off the live shows. Imagine 20000 have just watched rocky and taken coke and then see Ivan dragon banging their Mrs. Recipe for disaster.
Always a real edge nowadays at boxing events.
Adidas Sharston
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Where is the weigh in? Might go down?
Its at the arena tomorrow, tickets are free but you had to book them in advance. Might be worth checking, in case there's any left, they may of changed the criteria since.
Adidas Sharston
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Good chance of trouble as there seems to be at most boxing occasions nowadays sadly.[/QUOT
The fights scheduled to start at 22:45 so a few will of been on it all day. Like you say, some kids just get spannered and turn into Rocky Marciano. Having said that, you see it at the football aswell.
SuperKevinHorlock
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I was at the first Quigg/Munroe fight at the Velodrome that was bonkers-saying that Terry v Matthews will be crazy in Liverpool as well.
Adidas Sharston
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Frampton makes weight no problem, plenty of fans over from Belfast today.
The Richard Wright Fan Club
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Is it still off or is it back on?
Forget who it was on Talksport but they made a great point when they said if they believed they were as good as they both think they would get ready in the car park.
Forget who it was on Talksport but they made a great point when they said if they believed they were as good as they both think they would get ready in the car park.
Adidas Sharston
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Is it still off or is it back on?
Forget who it was on Talksport but they made a great point when they said if they believed they were as good as they both think they would get ready in the car park.
The fight was never in doubt just mind games from both camps. Quigg will get the home dressing room, I'm surprised this wasn't sorted when the contracts were signed like who comes out last and who's name is first on the billboards, posters etc. Nonsense to most of us.
leighton
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From what i am hearing from all around the gym its been there best training camp for years. They fucked up in the American fight took the guy for granted and made sure everything was right for this fight. He made the weight easy is what I was hearing on Wednesday evening he was within the limit to fight back then. The final press conference was Carl getting his own back on Eddie Hearn , Joe Gallagher and Quigg with the dressing room stuff. I heard he played Stevie Wonder Supersition at the conference. Also hearing rumours that the Superstition song some of it will be involved in Carls ringwalk come tomorrow night. Now not too sure if thats right or not.
The tickets things. Each fighter is given X amount of tickets to sell on the card all of Carls tickets were sold. I think some of the other lads found it hard to sell there tickets from Cyclone promotions while there is what i am hearing a lot of Irish fans were told in advance to get tickets from the arena and other options as Framptons went asap. I know it sounds mad but its true Carl got I think 10 tickets from Quigg for some of his friends as he had none left to sell.
As for the fight going by the fighters in and around Frampton Haye , George Groves have all came out and said they couldnt believe what Carl has been doing in the gym and if he takes the gym work into the ring he will have too much for him. I think Carl will win it by what I aint too sure. I know Carl could out box Quigg and if he wants to go for a late stoppage he could do. He is so relaxed its crazy leading into this fight that he has wanted years. I can see it being competitive for the first 4 rounds then Carls boxing skills taking over. Also feel a late stopage is there for Carl if he wants it fighting in Quiggs back yard he will need to put Quigg down to win the fight as at times you just cant leave it up to the judges.
The tickets things. Each fighter is given X amount of tickets to sell on the card all of Carls tickets were sold. I think some of the other lads found it hard to sell there tickets from Cyclone promotions while there is what i am hearing a lot of Irish fans were told in advance to get tickets from the arena and other options as Framptons went asap. I know it sounds mad but its true Carl got I think 10 tickets from Quigg for some of his friends as he had none left to sell.
As for the fight going by the fighters in and around Frampton Haye , George Groves have all came out and said they couldnt believe what Carl has been doing in the gym and if he takes the gym work into the ring he will have too much for him. I think Carl will win it by what I aint too sure. I know Carl could out box Quigg and if he wants to go for a late stoppage he could do. He is so relaxed its crazy leading into this fight that he has wanted years. I can see it being competitive for the first 4 rounds then Carls boxing skills taking over. Also feel a late stopage is there for Carl if he wants it fighting in Quiggs back yard he will need to put Quigg down to win the fight as at times you just cant leave it up to the judges.