The Boxing thread

kp789 said:
Carstairs said:
Happy days.

I backed Froch last time to good effect, and I will do so again.

Easy money.
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What odds did you get last time, I reckon they might be a bit more generous this time.
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Was about 1/3 last time.

If they fought next week you'd get around 1/2
 
Froch has earned the right to choose whichever opponent he sees fit.

Once a year boxing fans will call for a Groves rematch which is fair enough given the circumstances their fight ended in but Carl has nothing to prove to George or anyone else for that matter. He walked in a champion and he walked out a champion.

If money wasn't the issue Froch would fight Ward to avenge his only unavenged loss but PPV punters don't like Ward's style hence this fight probably won't happen especially since Ward can rightly claim that he has nothing to prove to Froch. He'd need megabucks to come to England and the numbers wouldn't add up to hold it in Vegas.

Aint seen a lot of him but as far as i can tell Chavez Jr is not an elite fighter and has spent his career bigging up his record by fighting much smaller guys. He's hardly a household name to PPV punters over here either so I don't see much mileage in this one.

I'd love to see Froch v GGG but apparently the GGG camp view Froch as too big a gamble given the natural size difference.

Groves is a nice kid but he should look elsewhere. Being disrespectful to a genuine top class British world champion won't win him too many friends in the game. Given his enhanced reputation there are plenty of other big fights he could take now;, Bute (if he comes back down), DeGale (for IBF title if Carl vacates), Stieglitz, Kessler even. Winning in style against anyone of these would confirm his world class credentials and would give him more to bring to the table for Froch negotiations.

I think if Eddie Hearn really thought he could sell out a football stadium in summer for this fight with commensurate ppv revenue then it would already have been signed.
 
Froch was Groves' first real big test and he failed. There was a big fuss about the early stoppage but Froch has history of coming back later on in fights and I think Groves was beginning to tire. His subsequent behaviour is disappointing and I hope he's being badly advised. How he recovers from his first defeat is always telling.
 
Santiago Street . said:
Froch has earned the right to choose whichever opponent he sees fit.

Once a year boxing fans will call for a Groves rematch which is fair enough given the circumstances their fight ended in but Carl has nothing to prove to George or anyone else for that matter. He walked in a champion and he walked out a champion.

If money wasn't the issue Froch would fight Ward to avenge his only unavenged loss but PPV punters don't like Ward's style hence this fight probably won't happen especially since Ward can rightly claim that he has nothing to prove to Froch. He'd need megabucks to come to England and the numbers wouldn't add up to hold it in Vegas.

Aint seen a lot of him but as far as i can tell Chavez Jr is not an elite fighter and has spent his career bigging up his record by fighting much smaller guys. He's hardly a household name to PPV punters over here either so I don't see much mileage in this one.

I'd love to see Froch v GGG but apparently the GGG camp view Froch as too big a gamble given the natural size difference.

Groves is a nice kid but he should look elsewhere. Being disrespectful to a genuine top class British world champion won't win him too many friends in the game. Given his enhanced reputation there are plenty of other big fights he could take now;, Bute (if he comes back down), DeGale (for IBF title if Carl vacates), Stieglitz, Kessler even. Winning in style against anyone of these would confirm his world class credentials and would give him more to bring to the table for Froch negotiations.

I think if Eddie Hearn really thought he could sell out a football stadium in summer for this fight with commensurate ppv revenue then it would already have been signed.
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Chavez Jnr beat Andy Lee and John Duddy both Irish fighters. KOd Lee and beat Duddy on the cards he fights Brain Vera next who was beaten by Andy Lee. Honestly think Chavez Jnr aint in the league of Froch to be honest. He was big for Middleweight but I aint too sure his power has moved up with him to be honest.
As for a fight with Bute no chance now. Bute wants another fight with Pascal. Now a fight with Pascal be good but I think Pascal v Stephenson could well be made. DeGale makes no sense for me. Let DeGale win his title and then a Froch fight but I dont think DeGale causes Froch problems and Froch by KO.
I want to see the Groves fight again. A brilliant fight nothing wrong with seeing it again. They will make huge money. I think Froch wasnt great on the night and kind of underestimated Groves thinking that he shouldnt of been in the ring with him and it nearly cost him. His worst fight in years. So Froch I think will want to KO him in style ala the Bute fight. Groves on the other hand thinks he has Frochs number and will be confident and know he has the power to put Froch down. He will pace himself better and when Froch attacks he will be able to cope better in the later rounds if it goes that far. I think it has to happen both fighters will make a mint from the fight and it makes business sense to do it. I never heard many people complaining when Morales v Barrera fights where happening or the Pacquaio v Marquez fights so it can happen and whos to say it wont happen a third time. IF the money is right for both get it on.


Roll on the 15th of Feb be watching live boxing in Dublin. Went up to the Pascal Collins gym in Dublin to get my tickets for the fight today he is training most of the top Irish pros. The likes of Stephen Ormond and Gary Spike O Sullivan. A great gym and Pascal was very welcoming and let us watch a bit of sparring. Will be watching a Gary Hyde show in Dublin. With 3 of his fighters on the bill. Topping the bill Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam in the middleweight divison. Lost a title fight to Peter Quillan. Michel Soro is on the bill he too lost in a World title fight in Light Middleweight and Youri Kayembre Kalenga who looks a bit of a banger is on the bill too. Hyde promotes Rigondeaux so has a eye on the talent out there. Also a lot of Irish fighters fighting cant wait to see Ryan Burnett fighting he is being trained by Ricky Hatton I think as well as being promoted by him. Be a good good night and I am looking forward to it.
 
Just had the (mis)fortune to have spent the last couple of hours in a meeting with Chris Eubank.
Strange guy!
 
Blueles61 said:
Just had the (mis)fortune to have spent the last couple of hours in a meeting with Chris Eubank.
Strange guy!
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yeah he is strange but i really enjoyed his book,
 
Like Lee Selby think he can be a future world champion this year. A good performance will see him maybe 2 fights away from a World title he is the best boxer and slick hitter I have seen from the UK for some time.
 
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