The Boxing thread

Gaudion M said:
Tyson was only at his best for a handful of his fights! You cant ignore the poor fights and losses! He gets hype because of the manner of victory in those early years but once it got tough he faded. No one talks about Holyfield being great but he had Tyson beat comfortabley!
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Gaudion M said:
Tyson was only at his best for a handful of his fights! You cant ignore the poor fights and losses! He gets hype because of the manner of victory in those early years but once it got tough he faded. No one talks about Holyfield being great but he had Tyson beat comfortabley!
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He did have his number but this was after a 3 year prison spell.

When Tyson came out, he badly needed the money and he was performing poorly in his tune up fights, but was ending them by spectacular KO which glossed over the performance. He was nowhere near ready to go in with Holyfield when he did, but needed to.

It's impossible to say how good he could have been. Everything changed after Cus died. He stopped training. The night before he lost to Douglas, he was in his hotel room with a cart load of strippers. People forget he technically should have won that fight. He put Douglas down and he was down for around 13 seconds. His prime years were basically wasted because he didn't live the life and he was destroying foes with such ease that he was hardly training, taking drugs etc.

On top of that he had the prison time. Holyfield and Lewis beat him comfortably but I don't think anyone can say with any certainty that they would have done the same thing when Tyson was anywhere near his best.

And for the record, everybody in boxing talks about Holyfield being great. He just slightly tainted his legacy with his performance enhancing drugs scandal.
 
Great buzz in AJ fights. Golovkin-like KO power and Khan-like speed(well for a heavyweight)...
It galls me that Haye might get a pop with no names on his record since coming back. IMO he needs to fight at least a Dillan Whyte/David Price/Derek Chisora first. Is Hughie Fury going to fight ANYONE btw?
 
I'd like to see a Whyte vs Klitschko/Fury fight. I thought he was pretty good against AJ and wasn't afraid to give it a go. Took a lot to knock him down as well.
 
Manchester1894 said:
Great buzz in AJ fights. Golovkin-like KO power and Khan-like speed(well for a heavyweight)...
It galls me that Haye might get a pop with no names on his record since coming back. IMO he needs to fight at least a Dillan Whyte/David Price/Derek Chisora first. Is Hughie Fury going to fight ANYONE btw?
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Dillan Whyte is shit as fuck, just because he fought AJ last people think he's actually something? What would Haye get out of fighting those you mentioned besides from KO'ing them and wasting his time?

Last year or so I've totally gone off boxing, it's become so boring since I got in to watching MMA. The only exciting fighter is Khan, can't wait for his fight.
 
Just did some geeking

Current country ranking in terms of world champions

UK 11
Mexico 10
Japan 7
USA 7
Russia 3
Thailand 3
Puerto Rico 3
Cuba 3
Nicaragua 2
Philippines 2
Ukraine 2
The rest have 1
Argentina, Canada, Dominican Republic, Germany, Kazakhstan, Poland, Sweden, Venezuela.

In terms of champions to population this is the top 5.

Puerto Rico 1 champion per 1.2 million
Nicaragua 1 champion per 2.9 million
Cuba 1 champion per 3.74 million
UK 1 Champion per 5.8 million
Sweden 1 champion per 9.8 million.
 
Regarding Tyson early years he brought everything with him a buzz and excitement. I agree when Cus went he went off the rails its a what could of been with Mike for me. Lennox was a great heavyweight champion but at the end he did great but when his first major test came along he retired when Vitali Klitschko came along and fought Lennox he soon retired when people were all calling for a rematch.

As for AJ take the mandatory fight asap whoever it is go in with them. Then you would be looking at either the big money fights for him. So a fight with either Haye or Fury should make a lot of money more so Haye saying that I dont think AJ is ready for either he might be 2 to 3 fights away from fighting either in my opinion. Just see the likes of both Haye and Fury being able to handle his power but would AJ be able to handle the shots from either i am not too sure yet.

As for the boxing and amount of UK fighters as World Champion it is some going there could be more to come the talent there is coming up is just going to get better and better. Some good fighters not too far off a World title fight and others will when they get a shot win 1 like AJ did being Callum Smith. Also next weekends world title fight with the Smiths brother should be good 1 to look at in the US.
 
Fury aint no mug and to say AJ would beat him is a bit mad. Hearn wont touch Fury or Haye for a few fights time. Fury has been inactive for 3 years when you think about it he only has had 5 fights which is fuck all. 2 fights a year in his last 2 in my opinion isnt that great but Fury has a lot of heart and will be hard to beat. He handled Klitshcko well and will just take AJ into his type of fight. I would favour Fury if the 2 were to fight next time out.
 
leighton said:
Fury aint no mug and to say AJ would beat him is a bit mad. Hearn wont touch Fury or Haye for a few fights time. Fury has been inactive for 3 years when you think about it he only has had 5 fights which is fuck all. 2 fights a year in his last 2 in my opinion isnt that great but Fury has a lot of heart and will be hard to beat. He handled Klitshcko well and will just take AJ into his type of fight. I would favour Fury if the 2 were to fight next time out.
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Completely agree mate Fury currently is a class above AJ imo.
 
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