The Conservative Party

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Doesn't matter

We have less troops than we did in Napoleonic wars

We have less ships than a bloke who owns a fishing fleet in Whitby

We have aircraft carriers with no aircraft

We have nuclear submarines ... but only one can put to sea at any one time.

We have nuclear weapons but the GPS navigation system is run by the Americans

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[Ifwecouldjust.......]

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Who controls Trident? A brief look at the operation of Britain’s nuclear weapons

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

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Who controls Trident?​

One of the most common myths around the system is that the United States has control over the UK’s Trident missile system, that is not the case.

The UK does rely on the US for the heavy maintenance and long term support of the system. For example, the British missiles are serviced at a port in the Georgia, US, and some warhead components are also made in America.

This is why the use of the word ‘operational’ is significant, while the UK can fire without permission, the system would likely not be sustainable without US support beyond a few years.

 

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Who controls Trident? A brief look at the operation of Britain’s nuclear weapons

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

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Who controls Trident?​

One of the most common myths around the system is that the United States has control over the UK’s Trident missile system, that is not the case.

The UK does rely on the US for the heavy maintenance and long term support of the system. For example, the British missiles are serviced at a port in the Georgia, US, and some warhead components are also made in America.

This is why the use of the word ‘operational’ is significant, while the UK can fire without permission, the system would likely not be sustainable without US support beyond a few years.

You claimed the US run the GPS navigation System. That above doesn't support that claim. There are no "British" missiles, they're mingled assets

 

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Britain - after 13 years of Tories breaking it

 

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Standard corrupt Tory practise - they were only ever a beard to hide the truth anyway but fuck me what a waste

Hospital scandal exposed as hundreds of Covid Nightingale beds sold for just £6

The NHS has admitted that it lost £13million on unused emergency beds for up to seven of the temporary hospitals - it bought them for £2,500 each

www.mirror.co.uk

 

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classic

 

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You claimed the US run the GPS navigation System. That above doesn't support that claim. There are no "British" missiles, they're mingled assets

Further info here

GPS - NASA

The Global Positioning System (GPS) is a space-based radio-navigation system, owned by the U.S. Government and operated by the United States Air Force (USAF).

www.nasa.gov

Plus as you say 'mingled assets' .......so not totally ours then?

 

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Further info here

GPS - NASA

The Global Positioning System (GPS) is a space-based radio-navigation system, owned by the U.S. Government and operated by the United States Air Force (USAF).

www.nasa.gov

Plus as you say 'mingled assets' .......so not totally ours then?

Operation of British nuclear missiles is not dependent on GPS so the fact that GPS is controlled by the US is irrelevant.

 

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Operation of British nuclear missiles is not dependent on GPS so the fact that GPS is controlled by the US is irrelevant.

Ah ok then .... but the UK seems to heavily reliant on the USA.

https://www.nuclearinfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Facts-about-Trident.pdf

Nuclear targeting

British warheads can be integrated into American nuclear war plans and there is a UK Liaison Cell at the headquarters of U.S. Strategic Command (STRATCOM) responsible for American plans. America also supplies important aspects of nuclear targeting data to UK submarines and the Royal Navy uses American software for target planning and data processing. American officers are stationed at the Permanent Joint Headquarters at Northwood from where UK submarine operations are controlled in order to coordinate British and American Trident submarine operations. Under the Polaris Sales Agreement UK nuclear forces are formally “committed to NATO and targeted in accordance with Alliance policy and strategic concepts under plans made by the Supreme Allied Command Europe (SACEUR)”. NATOs’ Nuclear Planning System is linked to STRATCOM and probably MOD and is dominated by U.S. nuclear planning.

 

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Further info here

GPS - NASA

The Global Positioning System (GPS) is a space-based radio-navigation system, owned by the U.S. Government and operated by the United States Air Force (USAF).

www.nasa.gov

Plus as you say 'mingled assets' .......so not totally ours then?

I don't need to read "further info"

The UKs nuclear deterrent is totally independent of the US. Once the missiles are loaded, they become British, and remain onboard for many years.

There is no tactical input from the US on their use, the targets we decide or the UK needing permission to use them. Our only obligation to the US is to keep them stored under specific environmental conditions and to conduct routine maintenance. That is the essence of mingled assets i.e. both nations maintain the weapon to the same standards so they can be used by either nation.

As for GPS, where did you pluck that from?