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[blue44]

 

[Saddleworth2]

I think that your analogy is incongruous. A better example would be comparing current technological communications and those of a generation ago, with a machine gun and a musket.

The former is far more effective and deadly - and can cause far more damage in the same period of time.

yes it can. But both weapons are impotent without someone operating them intending to kill. The evil is conducted by a human. The weapon/technology simply serves to make the evil more efficient.

 

[Vic]

It’s not a popular thing to say - especially on here - but the problem is now so bad that it can’t be ignored.

There won’t be any votes in it for Sunak but when you look at the numbers of people any government would need to tackle it, and that includes the next one as well.

The system has to be fair and that includes being fair to the people who do go out to work to pay for it all.

Indeed. Don't sick people vote? That's another group of ex-Tories.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Don't sick people vote?

Depends how sick they are.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

yes it can. But both weapons are impotent without someone operating them intending to kill. The evil is conducted by a human. The weapon/technology simply serves to make the evil more efficient.

But people haven’t fundamentally changed in the last 30 years. Technology has.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

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Say what you will about Jesus, but he was clearly a brilliant salesman.

 

[Vic]

Not necessarily...

The voter supression laws he's enacted means many of the people he's attacking won't be able to vote because they won't have official ID.

At least 5 million people need to be educated in getting official id to vote or use postal voting.

With regards to posting I can see a summer GE as some Tory seats will be less threatened as all the students will be at home.

They've got postal votes - they can vote in whichever seat is more marginal

 

[blue44]

Say what you will about Jesus, but he was clearly a brilliant salesman.

Or the author that wrote the fiction.
I work with a lot of pinoys that are brainwashed by him.

 

[Vic]

Yes but where is the help to get people back into work if they feel up to it?

You can't just say right off to work you go lad/lass after years of inactivity?

In the 80's there was a great scheme where people were trained for real jobs like brickies , carpenters, hairdressers etc or remploy schemes for disabled. Real funded training opportunities and ways for some sick, ex prisoners and squaddies etc to get back to work

All these have been abolished.

Another Thatcherite policy, cutting the Industrial Training Boards set up by the Labour government in 1964 to address the skills shortages.

 

[Vic]

He’s not thought it through properly.

There'll be 400 Tory MPs out of work come next January.

The mental health of MPs should be an indicator - but they can "not go to work" and it not be noticed.