As I understand it having been married to someone from overseas, for us peasants rules seem different
As dual citizenship isn't permitted for Indain nationals, she must be here on indefinate leave to remain, as having been married to someone in that position that does not make you a non dom, she either has two passports and is blagging it or is fiddlong tge system.
Non dom claims have fuck all to do with citizenship claims, you live here you are a domicile and subject to our tax laws.
I also know this from living abroard and being pestered by HMCR over not paying NI during that time
The reality is she quite clearly lives here and not in India and has taken advantage of a tax dodging loophole to pay zero uk tax on earnings. She lives in a tax payer funded flat and her husband can claim back practically all their living expenses. Our taxes pay for her life style.
Its morally wrong.
This bit is going to be wild speculation but I bet she pays fuck all tax in India.
The Tories are back on the thread to slavishly defend people taking the piss out of us and the system.
Nothing unfair about it.Or people are defending a woman is getting unfairly called out. No one is taking the piss out of anything or anyone. If she was earning it here and not paying taxes here but paying taxes on it in India then I’d be in lock step with you
You can also pay HMRC £30k pa to maintain non-dom status. Thats the loophole politicians have avoided tackling - there is only one reason you would pay that £30k and thats to avoid paying a much much lager sum in taxes to HMRC
But that's not how it works for you or me. I live in Malaysia, and if I took a job in the UK and earned money for it, I would be required to declare it and pay tax on it in Malaysia, not the UK, because that's where I'm resident and that's where I use the public services. The UK government would have no right to tax me. As far as I know, only two countries require you to pay taxes based on citizenship, and that's Eritrea and the US.Or people are defending a woman is getting unfairly called out. No one is taking the piss out of anything or anyone. If she was earning it here and not paying taxes here but paying taxes on it in India then I’d be in lock step with you
Well thats the thing, us plebs cannot pay £30K when living as a non dom.
Using it while then taxing people is a cunts trick imho
No that isn’t correct - she has requested non dom status. The line put out by her PR is simply intended to obfuscate; being UK tax domiciles does not mean she has to relinquish ties to the country of her birth. E.g. premier league footballers are paid PAYE, that doesn’t mean they cut off ties to Brazil, Portugal etc.Utter tripe. For her to not be consider non dom she would have to sever all ties with India - she is an Indian citizen paying Indian taxes. This money never arrives in the UK yet somehow you think we are entitled to tax it. Let alone the moral point that would deprive India of much needed income - you know a country with real poverty not relative poverty. But so long as we British are alright Jack eh?
No that isn’t correct - she has requested non dom status. The line put out by her PR is simply intended to obfuscate; being UK tax domiciles does not mean she has to relinquish ties to the country of her birth. E.g. premier league footballers are paid PAYE, that doesn’t mean they cut off ties to Brazil, Portugal etc.
What she is doing is legal, but it is a loophole to massively reduce her tax burden. Lord Goldsmith gave up non-dom status because it doesn’t fit with being a minister of state. She isn’t that, but she is the wife of the Chancellor. Morals, ethics should come into play and the simple request for transparency should be respected and delivered by Sunak. So if she is paying the correct tax on overseas earnings to India then that should be end of story. However, her PR said she’s paying ‘international tax’. That sounds like code for British Virgin Islands.
Tossers like Lord Rothermere pay little tax because he takes advantage of being a non-dom, despite being British and living in splendour half a mile from me he is wealthy enough to game the system. But then he isn’t a politician or married to the government. But the question is do you want to be governed by people with elastic ethics?
A foreign national living and earning in the UK will pay tax in the UK. That includes Mrs Sunak - who does exactly that. But that isn’t the point being discussed here, she lives in UK and this money is earned, and crucially remains, outside of the UK. I do agree with you that if she isn’t paying the right tax to India then that needs explaining.
This isn't the case. It's irrelevant where the money was earned. You pay tax on your worldwide income in the country you are resident in. From the HMRC website:A foreign national living and earning in the UK will pay tax in the UK. That includes Mrs Sunak - who does exactly that. But that isn’t the point being discussed here, she lives in UK and this money is earned, and crucially remains, outside of the UK. I do agree with you that if she isn’t paying the right tax to India then that needs explaining.
If you’re UK resident, you’ll normally pay tax on your foreign income. But you may not have to if your permanent home (‘domicile’) is abroad.
Yes - she pays tax on her U.K. earnings, I agree that isn’t the issue discussed. Part of the point I was making is that she does not have to sever ties to India by not being a non-dom, which is what you were suggesting she would have to do. Domicile is nothing to do with nationality.A foreign national living and earning in the UK will pay tax in the UK. That includes Mrs Sunak - who does exactly that. But that isn’t the point being discussed here, she lives in UK and this money is earned, and crucially remains, outside of the UK. I do agree with you that if she isn’t paying the right tax to India then that needs explaining.
Do you think non-dom status is an entitlement? You have to apply - its a conscious effort to gain the status. You do that if you want to "manage" your tax affairs so you only pay what you have to at the lowest rate possible.
Maybe so, maybe not. Here she is earning money in India, it remains in India, and paying taxes in India. You think she should pay UK and not Indian tax? Why exactly.
Fair pointA foreign national living and earning in the UK will pay tax in the UK. That includes Mrs Sunak - who does exactly that. But that isn’t the point being discussed here, she lives in UK and this money is earned, and crucially remains, outside of the UK. I do agree with you that if she isn’t paying the right tax to India then that needs explaining.
It’s not Starmers wife though is it?Fair point
I’m with you if she ain’t paying in India that’s the big deal and she is taking the piss.
But too many people on here are outraged for the sake of it.
If it was Keir starmer s wife they wouldn’t be arsed!
Next week it will be something else
If it was Sir Keir's wife we'd be organising to remove him from office as party members.Fair point
I’m with you if she ain’t paying in India that’s the big deal and she is taking the piss.
But too many people on here are outraged for the sake of it.
If it was Keir starmer s wife they wouldn’t be arsed!
Next week it will be something else