DalbeyINUK
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Edit:double post.
So your saying 1979 could be like 2015 .gordondaviesmoustache said:It's an art not a science though, mate. If it was straightforward to anticipate it, then squads would never decline. The opposite side of the coin is what Big Mal did when he came back in 1979. Cycles are good for football as a whole. They make the game more interesting. We've just got to manage this one on the way back up, better than we have on the way down.TFC said:I think the key in future is anticipating when a 'cycle' will end and beating that to the punch by getting rid of problems before they manifest.
gordondaviesmoustache said:It's an art not a science though, mate. If it was straightforward to anticipate it, then squads would never decline. The opposite side of the coin is what Big Mal did when he came back in 1979. Cycles are good for football as a whole. They make the game more interesting. We've just got to manage this one on the way back up, better than we have on the way down.TFC said:I think the key in future is anticipating when a 'cycle' will end and beating that to the punch by getting rid of problems before they manifest.
Paulmcfc2703 said:Do we even do anything in regards to the opposition strengths?Prestwich_Blue said:If you read the bit of Bellamy's autobiography where he signed for Liverpool, he talks about Benitez. He didn't really relate to him as a person but he said he was the most tactically aware manager he'd ever worked with. They didn't do five-a-sides in training, like we seem to do, but focused almost exclusively on the tactical situations they were planning to use in the next game and on nullifying the opponents' strengths. They'd practice these routines ad nauseam.lancs blue said:What I can't get my head round is, what was the preparation for this game?? Surely the coaching staff must have twigged that Fellaini would be a major focal point for their attacks yet there was no obvious attempt to man-mark him. Instead he was allowed to pull away onto each full back for their first two goals. I accept that you could never leave a man-marking job to Yaya in his current mood but why was no alternative attempted?
He would use video analysis to go through the opposition’s strengths and weaknesses. Our preparation for games was extremely thorough. Nothing was left to chance.
Does anyone think we prepare to that level?
Has anybody seen us do anything tactically this season to nullify the opposition?
Prestwich_Blue said:If you read the bit of Bellamy's autobiography where he signed for Liverpool, he talks about Benitez. He didn't really relate to him as a person but he said he was the most tactically aware manager he'd ever worked with. They didn't do five-a-sides in training, like we seem to do, but focused almost exclusively on the tactical situations they were planning to use in the next game and on nullifying the opponents' strengths. They'd practice these routines ad nauseam.lancs blue said:What I can't get my head round is, what was the preparation for this game?? Surely the coaching staff must have twigged that Fellaini would be a major focal point for their attacks yet there was no obvious attempt to man-mark him. Instead he was allowed to pull away onto each full back for their first two goals. I accept that you could never leave a man-marking job to Yaya in his current mood but why was no alternative attempted?
He would use video analysis to go through the opposition’s strengths and weaknesses. Our preparation for games was extremely thorough. Nothing was left to chance.
Does anyone think we prepare to that level?
Stoned Rose said:Prestwich_Blue said:If you read the bit of Bellamy's autobiography where he signed for Liverpool, he talks about Benitez. He didn't really relate to him as a person but he said he was the most tactically aware manager he'd ever worked with. They didn't do five-a-sides in training, like we seem to do, but focused almost exclusively on the tactical situations they were planning to use in the next game and on nullifying the opponents' strengths. They'd practice these routines ad nauseam.lancs blue said:What I can't get my head round is, what was the preparation for this game?? Surely the coaching staff must have twigged that Fellaini would be a major focal point for their attacks yet there was no obvious attempt to man-mark him. Instead he was allowed to pull away onto each full back for their first two goals. I accept that you could never leave a man-marking job to Yaya in his current mood but why was no alternative attempted?
He would use video analysis to go through the opposition’s strengths and weaknesses. Our preparation for games was extremely thorough. Nothing was left to chance.
Does anyone think we prepare to that level?
It's abundantly clear we don't even think about the opposition imo.
I've never seen MP do anything as a proactive measure to counter an opponent's strengths.
MP's approach is clearly one of we've got the 'best players; so we'll outscore you. This is great when the machinery is working and the players are motivated and 'into it' but it's one hell of a risk to be putting yourself in a position where you need to be scoring 2,3,4 goals to win games of football.
Imagine Mourinho with this set of players? I think we'd absolutely walk this league.
Danielmanc said:FFP didn't make us lose to Burnley, Palace or even United - it really didn't
Be interesting to see how they cope with microphone head next week, I doubt Chelsea will give him the freedom we gave him today.Stoned Rose said:Prestwich_Blue said:If you read the bit of Bellamy's autobiography where he signed for Liverpool, he talks about Benitez. He didn't really relate to him as a person but he said he was the most tactically aware manager he'd ever worked with. They didn't do five-a-sides in training, like we seem to do, but focused almost exclusively on the tactical situations they were planning to use in the next game and on nullifying the opponents' strengths. They'd practice these routines ad nauseam.lancs blue said:What I can't get my head round is, what was the preparation for this game?? Surely the coaching staff must have twigged that Fellaini would be a major focal point for their attacks yet there was no obvious attempt to man-mark him. Instead he was allowed to pull away onto each full back for their first two goals. I accept that you could never leave a man-marking job to Yaya in his current mood but why was no alternative attempted?
He would use video analysis to go through the opposition’s strengths and weaknesses. Our preparation for games was extremely thorough. Nothing was left to chance.
Does anyone think we prepare to that level?
It's abundantly clear we don't even think about the opposition imo.
I've never seen MP do anything as a proactive measure to counter an opponent's strengths.
MP's approach is clearly one of we've got the 'best players; so we'll outscore you. This is great when the machinery is working and the players are motivated and 'into it' but it's one hell of a risk to be putting yourself in a position where you need to be scoring 2,3,4 goals to win games of football.
Imagine Mourinho with this set of players? I think we'd absolutely walk this league.