The Greatest player of your time

black mamba said:
blue dallas said:
why is cantona not mentioned .

according to the daily mirror and skyMUtv, he's the best player that god himself ever put breath into !!

Always overated in my view ...... good player yes , but certainly not a great one ...... and it must piss Leeds fans off bigstyle that their club is never mentioned whenever people bring his name up ....... after all that was his initial destination , and that was where he won his first English honours ...... i still say that the rags 'tapped him up' ..... why would a club who had just won the league like like Leeds sell their new found idol to their hated enemy at the Swamp for only £1 million , and practically overnight at that!

because their coach at the time was a clueless tit called howard wilkinson
 
blue dallas said:
because their coach at the time was a clueless tit called howard wilkinson
Cant agree. Howard Wilkinson had foresight. He brought Cantona to Leeds in the first place. The other side capitalised big time. Not only that they beat Leeds 4.0 at their place 1996,which was Wilkinson’s coup de grace. Also about Wilkinson he had a youth policy in place that wasn’t quite ready to get on the stage when he was dismissed. Kewell, smith, woodgate, Bowyer ,there may have been a few others. He had them in place, yet there’s never enough time in football. The rest is history George Graham and David O’Leary took the glory when the kids produced. O'Leary's Leeds never finished outside of the top five.
 
jamiegrimble said:
blue dallas said:
because their coach at the time was a clueless tit called howard wilkinson
Cant agree. Howard Wilkinson had foresight. He brought Cantona to Leeds in the first place. The other side capitalised big time. Not only that they beat Leeds 4.0 at their place 1996,which was Wilkinson’s coup de grace. Also about Wilkinson he had a youth policy in place that wasn’t quite ready to get on the stage when he was dismissed. Kewell, smith, woodgate, Bowyer ,there may have been a few others. He had them in place, yet there’s never enough time in football. The rest is history George Graham and David O’Leary took the glory when the kids produced. O'Leary's Leeds never finished outside of the top five.

sold cantona for 1mill, bought brian deane for 3mill....... !
 
jamiegrimble said:
blue dallas said:
because their coach at the time was a clueless tit called howard wilkinson
Cant agree. Howard Wilkinson had foresight. He brought Cantona to Leeds in the first place. The other side capitalised big time. Not only that they beat Leeds 4.0 at their place 1996,which was Wilkinson’s coup de grace. Also about Wilkinson he had a youth policy in place that wasn’t quite ready to get on the stage when he was dismissed. Kewell, smith, woodgate, Bowyer ,there may have been a few others. He had them in place, yet there’s never enough time in football. The rest is history George Graham and David O’Leary took the glory when the kids produced. O'Leary's Leeds never finished outside of the top five.

sold cantona for 1mill, bought brian deane for 3mill....... !

the rest is history.
 
blue dallas said:
jamiegrimble said:
Cant agree. Howard Wilkinson had foresight. He brought Cantona to Leeds in the first place. The other side capitalised big time. Not only that they beat Leeds 4.0 at their place 1996,which was Wilkinson’s coup de grace. Also about Wilkinson he had a youth policy in place that wasn’t quite ready to get on the stage when he was dismissed. Kewell, smith, woodgate, Bowyer ,there may have been a few others. He had them in place, yet there’s never enough time in football. The rest is history George Graham and David O’Leary took the glory when the kids produced. O'Leary's Leeds never finished outside of the top five.
sold cantona for 1mill, bought brian deane for 3mill....... !
the rest is history.
Theres an ex chairman called Peter Ridsdale that had more to do with that than wilkinson.He fell on his sword when he messed with Terry Venables the rest is history.Venables had better lawyers.
 
Maradona by a street , had the (mis)pleasure of being at the swamp when they beat Barca 3-0 , cnuts, he was poor that nigt and outshone by Schuster. Mazza had 1 foot and couldn't head the ball, even so best player touched by god
 
johnmc said:
Kinky by name said:
I think Kinky was better than Best (regardless of opposition etc) and yes, I did see them both play.
Gérson and Tostão are often overlooked although Pele was clearly awesome.

Tino Best the West Indian fast bowler??

Maybe he means Leon Best of Coventry City?
 
blue dallas said:
black mamba said:
Always overated in my view ...... good player yes , but certainly not a great one ...... and it must piss Leeds fans off bigstyle that their club is never mentioned whenever people bring his name up ....... after all that was his initial destination , and that was where he won his first English honours ...... i still say that the rags 'tapped him up' ..... why would a club who had just won the league like like Leeds sell their new found idol to their hated enemy at the Swamp for only £1 million , and practically overnight at that!

because their coach at the time was a clueless tit called howard wilkinson

And he was nailing wilkos daughter........ a carlo nash if u like
 
jamiegrimble said:
blue dallas said:
sold cantona for 1mill, bought brian deane for 3mill....... !
the rest is history.
Theres an ex chairman called Peter Ridsdale that had more to do with that than wilkinson.He fell on his sword when he messed with Terry Venables the rest is history.Venables had better lawyers.

he still bought deane for 3 mill after selling cantona !
 
DIEGO ARMANDO MARADONA - pace, skill, control, body movement, balance, vision, passing range... all whilst off his face on cocaine.

The nearly but not quites in my lifetime are Marco van Basten, Michel Platini (the player not the politician, despite what people think of him now), and Romario too.

Best player I've had the privilege of seeing live... I saw the Inter Milan team of 1990 so pick any from Klinsmann, Lothar Matthaus or Giuseppe Bergomi.
 
blue dallas said:
jamiegrimble said:
Theres an ex chairman called Peter Ridsdale that had more to do with that than wilkinson.He fell on his sword when he messed with Terry Venables the rest is history.Venables had better lawyers.
he still bought deane for 3 mill after selling cantona !
O.K. you have no respect for wilkinson.Cool.I look deeper.
 
Franco Baresi was an awesome defender:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boPQNpPvJq0[/youtube]

Bear in mind he was 34, and had suffered a very bad knee injury just weeks before, yet he had Romario in his back pocket. Imagine a central defence pairing of him and Bobby Moore.

I'm surprised Zico hasn't been mentioned, he was a genius.
 
Johan Cruyff was the best player I've seen. I never saw him play live but I always enjoyed watching the Dutch team play with Cruyff being the star.

He had everything, turn of pace, good in the air and unbelievable balance.
I remember a game in the world cup when he sent a defender for a loaf. The defender went one way and fell on his arse and Cruyff went the other.

Better alround player than the fat Argy.
 
Gosford Blue said:
Johan Cruyff was the best player I've seen. I never saw him play live but I always enjoyed watching the Dutch team play with Cruyff being the star.

He had everything, turn of pace, good in the air and unbelievable balance.
I remember a game in the world cup when he sent a defender for a loaf. The defender went one way and fell on his arse and Cruyff went the other.

Better alround player than the fat Argy.
No one comes close to Maradona.

He won the League with Napoli in what was a relatively poor team, and won World Cups for Argentina.

The effect he had on the teams he played in can be measured by trophies
 
Marvin said:
Gosford Blue said:
Johan Cruyff was the best player I've seen. I never saw him play live but I always enjoyed watching the Dutch team play with Cruyff being the star.

He had everything, turn of pace, good in the air and unbelievable balance.
I remember a game in the world cup when he sent a defender for a loaf. The defender went one way and fell on his arse and Cruyff went the other.

Better alround player than the fat Argy.
No one comes close to Maradona.

He won the League with Napoli in what was a relatively poor team, and won World Cups for Argentina.

The effect he had on the teams he played in can be measured by trophies

agreed, napoli had never won seria a, they won it twice with maradona.

and the 86 world cup, anyone name the rest of the team, without the aid of google ?
 
A couple of relative quotes.That are available on the internet concerning this thread..Maradona credited Best as a key inspiration during his footballing youth, and Pele himself once described the Belfast Boy as the 'greatest footballer in the world', . In the east side of his native city, they have a saying: 'Maradona good, Pele better. George Best.'
I wouldnt go that far.For me pele,and then Best.
 
jamiegrimble said:
A couple of relative quotes.That are available on the internet concerning this thread..Maradona credited Best as a key inspiration during his footballing youth, and Pele himself once described the Belfast Boy as the 'greatest footballer in the world', . In the east side of his native city, they have a saying: 'Maradona good, Pele better. George Best.'
I wouldnt go that far.For me pele,and then Best.


when it comes to quotes - ''Kinkladze was singled out for praise by Diego Maradona, during a stint at CA Boca Juniors, and Real Madrid CF had also considered signing the 21-year-old and his 'dancing feet', honed as a youngster when his mother had sent him to learn the traditional Georgian ballet, mtiulur.''
 
Kinky by name said:
jamiegrimble said:
A couple of relative quotes.That are available on the internet concerning this thread..Maradona credited Best as a key inspiration during his footballing youth, and Pele himself once described the Belfast Boy as the 'greatest footballer in the world', . In the east side of his native city, they have a saying: 'Maradona good, Pele better. George Best.'
I wouldnt go that far.For me pele,and then Best.


when it comes to quotes - ''Kinkladze was singled out for praise by Diego Maradona, during a stint at CA Boca Juniors, and Real Madrid CF had also considered signing the 21-year-old and his 'dancing feet', honed as a youngster when his mother had sent him to learn the traditional Georgian ballet, mtiulur.''
Pele is rent a quote. I ignore everything he says

A lot of City fans still reckon that Gio was the best player they have seen, but its a fact proven by relegation that he was unable to transform the team

Maradona was a one man revolution who changed the fortnes of his team.

In a different era when footballers are even fitter than they are today, there may come along a better footballer. each generation is more and more effective. But I doubt there will ever be a player who had such an effect on the teams in which he played
 
Well sed Marvin 100% spot on.
As for best he did fook all for N.I and played with some great players at the scum.
Maradonna was a genius for club and country without the help of other great players around him.

P.s the N.I Best remark is open to be proven wrong.
 

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