The home support is terrible

M18CTID said:
Didsbury Dave said:
This uber fan stuff is so childish and so tiresome. Some of you need to grow up. Going to a football match isn't a 'duty' with a code of conduct. It's different things to different people. I was wryly amused when I went on a Sunderland forum after we beat them to see exactly the same thing: daft blurts hectoring and harassing other fans for leaving early and claiming they are the worst in the league.

Let it go. Life's too short. Nobody cares except you self appointed Super Fans.

You can always spot an early leaver when they get all defensive and come out with comments like this and anyone that has a restaurant table booked just an hour after a game has finished deserves all the stick they get for buggering off early ;)

Seriously, I'd say a lot more people are arsed about this than you think. It doesn't upset me though - if anything it amuses me, particularly when they miss iconic moments like Dickov's equaliser at Wembley or Aguerrrrroooooooooooo's last gasp title winning goal. After years of shit and staying to the end of games where we've been absolutely hammered I'm fucked if I'm pissing off early now that we've got a good team. I'm savouring every moment and leaving the fire drill to others.
I left Maine road at half time more than once to get back on the beer ;-)

If I was defensive I would have stayed quiet on the thread, but I'm not, I'm happy to front out anyone on this issue. I'm not an "early leaver". I stay to the end 80-90% of the time. I was there for the dickov goal, the aguero goal, the winner against bayern, all the important late ones. But Ive never felt duty bound to stay to the end if I don't want to. It's. It usually not particularly about traffic for me either. Sometimes I have other things to do, sometimes I'm cold, pissed off or even bored. I'm absorbed in a game of football when it's a contest but if it's over sometimes I'm not arsed about staying watching a half-paced game play out, or watching the opposition fans have a party. I've seen what I came for.

If I miss a goal leaving these games it gives me something to watch on the telly later or next day. I couldn't give a shit. I couldn't give a shit what anyone on here says either. I think it's pathetic getting worked up about it. I've paid my dues for a lifetime following City and I think it's childish to demand that people watch a game in the same way you do. From my point of view I can't understand anyone wanting to sit at the front. I would never wear a city shirt or coat and I certainly don't want people to stand in front of me when ive paid for a seat. I think people taking photos outside the stadium are a bit sad, and I cringe at grown men going up to players and asking for photos. It's many years since I was interested In abusing away fans. But I don't feel the need to lecture others about it because it doesn't impinge on my life. Each to their own.

And please spare me a journey to the moral ground about the players deserving a clap off the field. I've turned up, cheered them on and clapped all afternoon. I've done my bit. They don't give a flying fuck, they are grown men who know the way of the world.

So no, I'm not being defensive, I'm on the attack here. There's a real dick sits behind me at the Etihad with an irritating squeaky voice. He was saying (to the whole block) at the weekend in the second half "look at those Geordies! everyone says what great fans they are and half of them have gone home! Pathetic" and I though to myself "you're the pathetic one pal". I'd have fucked off home if I was them too.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
dawlish dave said:
M18CTID said:
You can always spot an early leaver when they get all defensive and come out with comments like this and anyone that has a restaurant table booked just an hour after a game has finished deserves all the stick they get for buggering off early ;)

Seriously, I'd say a lot more people are arsed about this than you think. It doesn't upset me though - if anything it amuses me, particularly when they miss iconic moments like Dickov's equaliser at Wembley or Aguerrrrroooooooooooo's last gasp title winning goal. After years of shit and staying to the end of games where we've been absolutely hammered I'm fucked if I'm pissing off early now that we've got a good team. I'm savouring every moment and leaving the fire drill to others.


What shite this thread has become, I travel 250 miles and apart from 12.45 and 3.0 Sat KOs I have to stop overnight. On Sat v the barecodes I left my seat 5 min after the team had left the pitch, plenty of time to catch the 20.27 train to Macc for overnight in Travelodge. Tue v Barca need to get the 22.07 to Macc for the same overnight stop. May well leave when the extra min board goes up, like to catch a pint in the Nags Head at Macc then see the highlights on TV. Why do I feel the need to justify my actions, well maybe to get the message over that each and every one of us can after we pay for our ticket can leave when ever we wish to. Now can some people wind their necks in.

you should be more considerate and move closer to the ground.

Wot and change my username, do you think I have no standards.
 
dawlish dave said:
M18CTID said:
Didsbury Dave said:
This uber fan stuff is so childish and so tiresome. Some of you need to grow up. Going to a football match isn't a 'duty' with a code of conduct. It's different things to different people. I was wryly amused when I went on a Sunderland forum after we beat them to see exactly the same thing: daft blurts hectoring and harassing other fans for leaving early and claiming they are the worst in the league.

Let it go. Life's too short. Nobody cares except you self appointed Super Fans.

You can always spot an early leaver when they get all defensive and come out with comments like this and anyone that has a restaurant table booked just an hour after a game has finished deserves all the stick they get for buggering off early ;)

Seriously, I'd say a lot more people are arsed about this than you think. It doesn't upset me though - if anything it amuses me, particularly when they miss iconic moments like Dickov's equaliser at Wembley or Aguerrrrroooooooooooo's last gasp title winning goal. After years of shit and staying to the end of games where we've been absolutely hammered I'm fucked if I'm pissing off early now that we've got a good team. I'm savouring every moment and leaving the fire drill to others.


What shite this thread has become, I travel 250 miles and apart from 12.45 and 3.0 Sat KOs I have to stop overnight. On Sat v the barecodes I left my seat 5 min after the team had left the pitch, plenty of time to catch the 20.27 train to Macc for overnight in Travelodge. Tue v Barca need to get the 22.07 to Macc for the same overnight stop. May well leave when the extra min board goes up, like to catch a pint in the Nags Head at Macc then see the highlights on TV. Why do I feel the need to justify my actions, well maybe to get the message over that each and every one of us can after we pay for our ticket can leave when ever we wish to. Now can some people wind their necks in.

You're hardly the kind of person that my posts were aimed at - I did make reference in an earlier post to those that had prior engagements and had to be somewhere else for a particular time as not being the ones I was talking about. I'm well aware about the lengths you go to when attending home games mate and I applaud that commitment. It puts people like me who "live just round the corner" to fucking shame. I also empathise with those who are driving and are parked on the official car parks because from what I've heard it's an absolute nightmare getting off there at the end of the match, and to compound it the away fans get arguably the quickest flyer on their escorted coaches out of our place than pretty much every other ground in the division. However, it's those fellow fans that "live just round the corner", aren't driving, and don't have anything in particular to do straight after the game but bail out in their thousands when we're thumping Newcastle 5-0 in a thoroughly enjoyable game where we've rediscovered our swagger that bemuse me. You'll have seen just how empty the ground was at the final whistle yourself on Saturday when you stopped to applaud the team off. As you said, they pays their money and make their choice but it doesn't mean we can't have an opinion on it.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
M18CTID said:
Didsbury Dave said:
This uber fan stuff is so childish and so tiresome. Some of you need to grow up. Going to a football match isn't a 'duty' with a code of conduct. It's different things to different people. I was wryly amused when I went on a Sunderland forum after we beat them to see exactly the same thing: daft blurts hectoring and harassing other fans for leaving early and claiming they are the worst in the league.

Let it go. Life's too short. Nobody cares except you self appointed Super Fans.

You can always spot an early leaver when they get all defensive and come out with comments like this and anyone that has a restaurant table booked just an hour after a game has finished deserves all the stick they get for buggering off early ;)

Seriously, I'd say a lot more people are arsed about this than you think. It doesn't upset me though - if anything it amuses me, particularly when they miss iconic moments like Dickov's equaliser at Wembley or Aguerrrrroooooooooooo's last gasp title winning goal. After years of shit and staying to the end of games where we've been absolutely hammered I'm fucked if I'm pissing off early now that we've got a good team. I'm savouring every moment and leaving the fire drill to others.
I left Maine road at half time more than once to get back on the beer ;-)

If I was defensive I would have stayed quiet on the thread, but I'm not, I'm happy to front out anyone on this issue. I'm not an "early leaver". I stay to the end 80-90% of the time. I was there for the dickov goal, the aguero goal, the winner against bayern, all the important late ones. But Ive never felt duty bound to stay to the end if I don't want to. It's. It usually not particularly about traffic for me either. Sometimes I have other things to do, sometimes I'm cold, pissed off or even bored. I'm absorbed in a game of football when it's a contest but if it's over sometimes I'm not arsed about staying watching a half-paced game play out, or watching the opposition fans have a party. I've seen what I came for.

If I miss a goal leaving these games it gives me something to watch on the telly later or next day. I couldn't give a shit. I couldn't give a shit what anyone on here says either. I think it's pathetic getting worked up about it. I've paid my dues for a lifetime following City and I think it's childish to demand that people watch a game in the same way you do. From my point of view I can't understand anyone wanting to sit at the front. I would never wear a city shirt or coat and I certainly don't want people to stand in front of me when ive paid for a seat. I think people taking photos outside the stadium are a bit sad, and I cringe at grown men going up to players and asking for photos. It's many years since I was interested In abusing away fans. But I don't feel the need to lecture others about it because it doesn't impinge on my life. Each to their own.

And please spare me a journey to the moral ground about the players deserving a clap off the field. I've turned up, cheered them on and clapped all afternoon. I've done my bit. They don't give a flying fuck, they are grown men who know the way of the world.

So no, I'm not being defensive, I'm on the attack here. There's a real dick sits behind me at the Etihad with an irritating squeaky voice. He was saying (to the whole block) at the weekend in the second half "look at those Geordies! everyone says what great fans they are and half of them have gone home! Pathetic" and I though to myself "you're the pathetic one pal". I'd have fucked off home if I was them too.

I know one bloke that for years bailed out of away games at half-time so he could go on the piss, regardless of the scoreline. For him, the day out itself was more of an event than the match. For me, both are important but I still want to see the game.

I actually agree with a lot of what you've said there. However, I'm only expressing an opinion just like you are with your particular bugbears. I'll repeat - it bemuses me rather than angers me and I'd never start a thread about it because while I see it as an issue worth commenting on I don't exactly lose sleep over it.

As for the dick slagging the Newcastle fans off, I can see both sides to be honest. On the one hand they've made a real commitment to travel down and watch the game plus they must be understandably pissed off with what's going on up there at the moment so I can't blame those that bailed it at half time even if it's something that I wouldn't have done. On the other hand, Newcastle fans have been telling us for years that they're the best, most dedicated fans in the whole wide world so the bloke had a bit of a point about those that left. Can't fault those that stayed and toughed it out though. I actually applauded their fans at the end of the game on Saturday because it can't be much fun watching that unfold when you're on the receiving end but we've been there ourselves and sometimes the best thing to do is make the most of it and show some defiance in terms of getting behind the team no matter how useless they've been.
 
I'll be fascinated to hear what the atmosphere is like tonight. I know tickets were hard to come by last season but there were still some interesting looking people in the ground who you'd not normally see. I was also asked for directions from people in City shirts...

Barcelona was the kind of fixture I dreamed of but I couldn't get excited for it this time round. I've found the Champions League to be underwhelming so far and the atmosphere inside to be strange.
 
peoffrey said:
I'll be fascinated to hear what the atmosphere is like tonight. I know tickets were hard to come by last season but there were still some interesting looking people in the ground who you'd not normally see. I was also asked for directions from people in City shirts...

Barcelona was the kind of fixture I dreamed of but I couldn't get excited for it this time round. I've found the Champions League to be underwhelming so far and the atmosphere inside to be strange.

I agree to an extent but I think the atmosphere at last season's home game against Barca was crackling during the early stages and if we'd gone in front the roof would've come off the place. Trouble is, they proceeded to play keep ball for much of the first half and we hardly pressed them which in turn nullified the atmosphere.
 
M18CTID said:
peoffrey said:
I'll be fascinated to hear what the atmosphere is like tonight. I know tickets were hard to come by last season but there were still some interesting looking people in the ground who you'd not normally see. I was also asked for directions from people in City shirts...

Barcelona was the kind of fixture I dreamed of but I couldn't get excited for it this time round. I've found the Champions League to be underwhelming so far and the atmosphere inside to be strange.

I agree to an extent but I think the atmosphere at last season's home game against Barca was crackling during the early stages and if we'd gone in front the roof would've come off the place. Trouble is, they proceeded to play keep ball for much of the first half and we hardly pressed them which in turn nullified the atmosphere.

That's how I remember it too: a great atmosphere early in the game, then it became a bit overwhelmed with tension and foreboding.

I think the place will be absolutely rocking if we put on the performance I'm hopeful we can. I'm really hopeful this is the night we "arrive" on the world stage.
 
I too stay till the end and can't really understand people leaving early to miss a little traffic, does getting in your house 20 minutes earlier really matter that much? and I do understand that football has changed and the people and also attitude of people who watch football has changed over the years it's not a working mans sport anymore and it's not 80% blokes who go watch the game nowadays it's family's, women it's more a social event...

I applaud the work of the 1894 group and I too want the same things they want but what people need to understand is everyone's match day experience and what they expect from it are totally different. What I do on a Saturday is not the same as the guy who sits next to me.

I think the best way to improve the atmosphere is for everyone to commit to sitting together who want to sing and hopefully that will happen with the away fans spread across 3 tiers, to think we will have all the stadium singing for 90 minutes is unrealistic and people need to realise people will leave early and corporate will pick and choose games that's just the way it is.

As long as your enjoying your match day experience then that's what counts and if your not then don't be reliant on others facilitating your enjoyment, if you want to sing and improve the atmosphere then move seats into the new section get involved with 1894 and don't point fingers at others who for example leave early or don't get involved with singing for whatever reason.

Too many people are quick to blame others but are not willing to step up and change things for themselves.
 
peoffrey said:
I'll be fascinated to hear what the atmosphere is like tonight. I know tickets were hard to come by last season but there were still some interesting looking people in the ground who you'd not normally see. I was also asked for directions from people in City shirts...

Barcelona was the kind of fixture I dreamed of but I couldn't get excited for it this time round. I've found the Champions League to be underwhelming so far and the atmosphere inside to be strange.

As everyone around the club seems to be more confident this time around I am hoping this will rub off on the fans and the noise should not be a problem. Look at the weekend. An early goal (everyone more relaxed) gave one of the best atmospheres (from my position in 109) this season.
 
With the singing block pretty much a done deal, next season the atmosphere should be a lot better. I'm not saying it will be 40,000 delirious fans screaming their heads off for 90 minutes, but the 15 minute spells of silence, where you could have a quiet chat with your mate sat in the opposite stand to you, will be interrupted by more continuous singing in the south stand.


Tonight should be good as well. I'm not a fan of 'club orchestrated' displays like they are going to do, but it will add to the match day experience in a way that isn't cringeworthy. I'll still wave my scarf as opposed to waving the free flag though!
 

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