The Labour Government

M18CTID said:
Why, who's going to get in ahead of them? The Tories? Fuck me, that's some straw-clutching right there
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They started off well and then continued to not remove some of the bad policies they always said they would, a week in the life of politics if they are not very careful.
 
M18CTID said:
It's hardly an austerity government, more an austerity measure. And given that it's now been cleared up that you're not a Tory, I'm sure you won't have an issue in anyone blaming any Labour austerity measures on the state of the finances that the previous government left them with.
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Brought in by the government
 
stonerblue said:
Needs a massive change in our socio-economic system. Not much point in building houses when kids need a 30k deposit to get a mortgage.
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I think the Government also need to remove the 'right to buy' social housing. This will leave more affordable housing in the rental market. Also when social housing is sold its done at a big discount. And the housing associations and the taxpayer that subsidised the build lose out. When Thatcher brought the right to buy in during the 80s there wasn't the lack of housing there now is , so it wasn't such a big problem.
 
M18CTID said:
Because of the state the previous government left the finances in
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Do you really think that this wasn't planned before the election ?

Or is it a good policy now that it's the red teams play, whereas it would have been a penny piching, mean spirited, and generally out of order policy had it come from the blue team ?
 
MouldensChippy said:
Do you really think that this wasn't planned before the election ?

Or is it a good policy now that it's the red teams play, whereas it would have been a penny piching, mean spirited, and generally out of order policy had it come from the blue team ?
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We'll never know whether it was planned or not but what we do know is that the state the last government left the country in meant that the new government were going to have to make some tough decisions.

And don't try to imply that I'm a Labour voter that has always hated the Tories. This year was the first time since 2001 that I've voted for Labour in a General Election. I voted Conservative in 2010 because I believed that their austerity vision was our best route out of the global financial crisis. However, I lost patience with them in 2015 when they were advocating yet more austerity ahead of their second term, and from then on - post-Brexit vote in particular - it went more and more to shit.
 
Labour have decided that to achieve electoral credibility they have to run a very tight ship and not just borrow (even more) to cover stuff we can't really afford.

This is, of course, a political choice. But going the other way, the most recent example is Truss, borrowing for tax cuts. I hardly see that as a wise policy, but your mileage may vary as they say. I do get the feeling that a lot of people want tax cuts but no cuts in spending. Is that credible? It seems to be if a Tory does it, but not anyone else. For my part, I don't see how it can be sustained. You end up with even more austerity, maybe the complete destruction of public services. (Which many Tories would like!)

Labour has gone the way it has precisely because of what happened to Corbyn, and his menu of policies that people seemed to think not to be credible.

Various factors have fucked our economy, and it's infantile to think we can put things right without either cutting costs or increasing taxes or both. In the case of cutting costs, everyone is fine with that until it hits them. In the case of increasing taxes, everyone is fine with that until it hits them. The consensus is always - someone else should pay, not me.
 
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