The Labour Government

[mexico1970]

This is why parliament is fucked.

All sides have lawyers and middle/upper class MPs representing S.Baldrick in their constituency of Shit hole by the sea.

Party rules preventing activists who do real jobs like wiping arses,cleaning streets, teaching assistants from standing because like City a majority of them would shake up their cushy arrangements of self preservation.

It doesn't reflect the true spectrum of people who live and work in this country anymore.

Over hundred years ago we had commies/fascists and everyone in between winning seats because they represented their area well. Now we've got two parties of different colours but maintaining their status quo.

I have always said that political corruption starts in this country with the selection process, in what is effectively a closed shop you'd have to stand as an independent and rely on a savvy electorate to vote you in for long enough for you to facilitate change.

MPs are generally going through the motions, I bet they had more passion when Charles the 1st was on the throne even though they had less power.

 

[Blue Maverick]

A friend of mine had 4 houses she rented out, she's now has two apartments in Lytham. The reason being non payment, causing damage to the properties and stealing a boiler, it was too stressful. Some of her renters were on benefit's, they were the worse because they got their PIP/Universal Credit payments which included rent allowance but "forgot" to pay their rent.

Before anyone pulls me up I know I've used a tautology.

It's not discrimination it's purely financial, she was in danger of going broke, most Landlords have finance to pay on properties with hopefully a profit at the end of the year. If some renters are likely to default it's a business decision not to take them on.

Years before if you were on benefits the rent got paid direct to the landlords but then some right spark thought that was demeaning and people should be allowed the responsibility of receiving their benefits then paying to the landlord themselves, it was always going to happen many would go down the route of spending it elsewhere.

 

[The perfect fumble]

MPs are generally going through the motions, I bet they had more passion when Charles the 1st was on the throne even though they had less power.

When you talk about MPs passion during the reign of Charles I, you're referring to the English Civil War.

As for less power back then, well MPs had the power to behead the king, which I guess is a step up from voting for onshore wind farms.

 

[metalblue]

When you talk about MPs passion during the reign of Charles I, you're referring to the English Civil War.

As for less power back then , well MPs had the power to behead the king, which I guess is a step up from voting for onshore wind farms.

You’ve obviously never been in a village hall when onshore wind farms have been discussed.

 

[mexico1970]

When you talk about MPs passion during the reign of Charles I, you're referring to the English Civil War.

As for less power back then , well MPs had the power to behead the king, which I guess is a step up from voting for onshore wind farms.

I am pretty much aware of that, like I stated they had more passion, MPs didn't behead a King he was judged by 4 judges after a particularly nasty time in English history. Only after the beheading did Parliament gain more power and even then they were trying to give Cromwell the Kings crown.

Without the civil war the govt would have just murdered him like many monarchs before him.

The commons was a tool to help the monarch raise taxes, any other explanation for why it was there is just frivolous nonsense. They had less power than they do now.

 

[The perfect fumble]

You’ve obviously never been in a village hall when onshore wind farms have been discussed.

You have a point....

 

[mexico1970]

You have a point....

Mods room ?

 

[metalblue]

Mods room ?

They look like they are trying to work out who is going to mod the politics sub forum.

 

[mexico1970]

They look like they are trying to work out who is going to mod the politics sub forum.

Thankless task, we should really set up a gofund me so they can all have a day out somewhere.

 

[BlueHammer85]

The £46B black hole discussed in May was the predicted loss of Income when Rishi Sunak abolished National Insurance. If the incompetent, ignorant, idiotic idealogues in the Tory party had won the election and implemented this policy they would have had a £46B shortfall in income to address.

Labour claims chancellor will create a £46bn fiscal hole with pledge to scrap NI

Opposition party intends to go through ‘every pound’ in Tory spending plans to find savings

www.ft.com

This is nothing to do with the gap between the current income to the Inland Revenue and the cost of current commitments, which is estimated at £22B .This is the sum that the incompetent, ignorant, idiotic idealogues in the Tory Government lied about to the British voters by not declaring it (lying by omission is lying).

Your intellect seems to have been ovepowered by the use of the same noun "black hole" to describe the two seperate cases. This, despite the two being identified by different denominators, one being labelled a "£46B black hole" and the other a "£22B black hole".

If the incompetent, ignorant, idiotic lying idealogues in the Tory party had won the election and implemented their idiotic policy of abolishing NI the total discrepancy ("black hole"!) would have been £68 billion - the £46B lost from NI contributions plus the £22B shortfall that the Tories lied to the British public about.

Will this be another Chippy classic reply '' fair enough, I hold my hands up on this one ....BUT '' (before going off on another infactual anti Muslim or labour rant in hope something will stick)