The Labour Government

[stonerblue]

Does a Labour government bring in a final solution policy for them all and the left on here fall over themselves supporting it?

Lovely.

 

[stonerblue]

£12.50 per week. I’m booking my private jet as we speak. Off on my holidays.



Oh wait, I’ve got a fuel bill to pay and that’s gone up.
Travelling to the hospital and paying parking at least once per week some weeks more. Yes I could travel by bus but bus stops too far away for my walk.
I could go on but I forgot I’m an expendable pensioner. Sorry to butt in.

You'll be about. 7 quid a week better off taking the wfa into account.

 

[Eccles Blue]

I’m not objecting to paying my FAIR share of the taxes I hasten to explain. However the main word there is FAIR share.
When I see/hear that the tax dodgers both personal and big business ones are being targeted then I might feel better.

 

[ganganvince]

£12.50 per week. I’m booking my private jet as we speak. Off on my holidays.



Oh wait, I’ve got a fuel bill to pay and that’s gone up.
Travelling to the hospital and paying parking at least once per week some weeks more. Yes I could travel by bus but bus stops too far away for my walk.
I could go on but I forgot I’m an expendable pensioner. Sorry to butt in.

Assuming no means test introduced anytime soon.

 

[mexico1970]

I’m not objecting to paying my FAIR share of the taxes I hasten to explain. However the main word there is FAIR share.
When I see/hear that the tax dodgers both personal and big business ones are being targeted then I might feel better.

The did nothing when Blair was in power but when the Tories got in they promised that they would, now they they are in again they will wait until they are out before they promise to sort big business out.

Labour has pledged to make Google and Starbucks pay their ‘fair share of taxes’

Shadow chancellor John McDonnell promises to launch an 'aggressive' pursuit of tax avoiders Mr McDonnell sets out a plan to retrieve £25bn in corporate tax avoidance

www.independent.co.uk

 

[BlueHammer85]

It's more that they kept all the shit Tory policies and have no plans to get rid of them after years of calling them cruel.

They are removing the fuel allowance for well off pensioners but the bar will fall to catch others less fortunate in the trap.

Whilst ending the junior doctors strikes, how many operations and lives is that saving? Ending the train strikes, sorting out the NHS and dealing with the 22 billion black hole the Tories left - but yes, it’s Labour that are the cruel ones.

 

[hampshireblue]

The general public have to take their share of the blame, tell the truth about any tax rises and they lose their minds.
Starmer pretty much confirmed he is planning to suspend any mps who vote against him because they stood on the Labour mandate. Don't remember taking money off old poor cold folk being in their manifesto.
Nice to see he doesn't want other views in his party, Labour is a broad church he was forever saying. He's a bit of a **** on the quiet that bloke.

You're right about the public. You only have to look on here to see some of the bogus claims that generally go unchallenged. It's too easy generally for people to not check the source and validity of the "facts" that people put up.

I don't like it but a leader has the ability to remove the whip especially if MPs go against what was in the manifesto. What we are seeing here is the incoming Govt deciding to do something based on information that has come to light after the election. People will decide for themselves whether they believe that or not. On that basis, I don't think MPs should lose the whip as they didn't stand directly on that point. They did stand however on the basis that they klnew the economy needed sorting and this is one step towards doing it-like it or not, and for the record, I don't-it's clumsy and too much of a sledgehammer.

All the parties are a "broad church" according to them, but labout has probably done more over the last few years to change and sort themselves out. The Tories are looking as if they're going to have the likes of Honest Bob Jenrick as a leader-look up his past and you'll see he's just more of the same old dodgy mould.

 

[hampshireblue]

You earn or pay into a pension you should get a pension and all which it entails, Labour cutting the cloth from the wrong fucking end and people on here supporting that?

You're right, but when you and I started paying in, it didn't entail us getting a Winter fuel allowance. That was brought in as a temporary measure in 1997.

 

[Eccles Blue]

By the way I will still vote Labour if we have another election any time.

 

[hampshireblue]

If it's the 5.71% that's predicted it'll be circa £650 which you fully deserve after paying in for 40 years.

What some people don't realise is the current cost of living increases eats into the savings us FOC's have made to make our retired life comfortable whereby some people in employment are now getting inflation busting pay rises.

A brick layer I know is now charging £300'a day and his "hod carrier" gets £170 a day, equivalent to £40k per year for a labourer.

Please tell us you didn't vote for Brexit if you're moaning about workers getting increased pay. I thought the "foreigners" were coming in and driving salaries down-well now supply and demand has kicked in and pay is rising for all those downtrodden local workers.