The Labour Government

[Vic]

Whilst you’re correct, we do have a massive prison population compared to our closest European neighbours.
Even if we locked people up at the same rate as France, we’d have 10,000 fewer prisoners. If we did it at the same rate as Finland, we’d have 50,000 fewer prisoners.
Estimated cost for a prisoner is £52,000 means we are spending over £4B a year on keeping people in the nick. We must be able to spend a lot of that money better, surely?

Longer sentences mean more people in prison and less chance for rehabilitation programmes.

Former judges call for reversal of longer sentences to ease overcrowding

They say "urgent review" of prisons is needed and a reversal of "sentence inflation", a trend of prison sentences doubling in length over the past 50 years.

news.sky.com

 

[Vic]

And as you say, some of the Labour lefties on here are actively supporting it and justifying it. If the Tories had done this they would be going mental. They should be ashamed of themselves.
How to get rid of the pensioner problem? Easy... Kill them.

Going mental, eh? You sound expert.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Maybe send all the foreign prisoners back to their homeland would be a start and not imprison 50 year old women for making a post on face book would also help.

To be honest i would have thought that would be the obvious first way to free up prison places.

 

[KS55]

They have no choice but to free up prison places , the tories let them drop to a hundred in the whole country., What do labour do ? The police have to be able to arrest criminals and the courts send some to prison, without that happening might as well decriminalise everything

Sack a large number of policemen, saving money and there would be fewer people arrested and jailed. QED.

 

[PPT]

Going mental, eh? You sound expert.

Ad Hominem​

(Attacking the person): This occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument.

Because you know that you are trying to defend the indefensible.
Crack on fella!

 

[PPT]

Sack a large number of policemen, saving money and there would be fewer people arrested and jailed. QED.

That has already happened.

 

[mexico1970]

This Timpson fella has stated we have too many people in prison, perhaps the Labour party are going to build more prisons that are more comfortable with smaller capacities.

The shit prisons will just be for political opponents and not the murderers and rapists.

 

[KS55]

That has already happened.

Oh. Silly me.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

They have no choice but to free up prison places , the tories let them drop to a hundred in the whole country., What do labour do ? The police have to be able to arrest criminals and the courts send some to prison, without that happening might as well decriminalise everything

Aren’t there thousands of foreign criminals in our prison system. The obvious answer would be to deport them as most of them have no right to be here.

That would solve it.

 

[Kompany Car]

Trouble is, prison has largely given up on rehabilitation, so most of them turn up again, whether they are released sooner or later. Like most other things, our probation system and much of our prison estate has been hived off to private companies. State sanctioned punishment and or rehab services should be run by the state and not for profit.

Right I have cunning plan... If we cant spend money on reforming people we might as well do the following.

What you do is put all these prisoners on exercise bikes with a dynamo attached to generate electricity. The amount they cycle per day is proportional to the severity of the crime committed.

An average person generates 150W of power cycling for 1hr. Prison population is around 97000 and cycling for 7.5hrs a day (37.5hrs a week). 97000*150W*37.5*52= 28.378GW per year, thats enough to power more than 10000 houses for a full year and we have the chance to find the next Bradley Wiggins saving money from Team GBs budget.

Or we could go total dystopian future and use their thermal energy (Matrix style), 105W per hour so about 2.5kW per day * 97000 = 244MW per day or just short of 90TW per year or roughly 1/3 of the UK entire electricity consumption per day. Just need to feed them a low cost high energy sugar and away we go.

See big problems require innovative solutions.