The Labour Government

[mosssideblue]

It is rumoured that the single occupancy council tax reduction is to be scrapped. So all those little old widows with small incomes will have to fork out more, of cause they could apply for a rebate by filling in a 200 page application.

No problem in scrapping the single occupancy if done fairly

 

[Gray]

No problem in scrapping the single occupancy if done fairly

They will have done a full review before hand won't they?

 

[mosssideblue]

They will have done a full review before hand won't they?

I'm sure there are quite a lot who benefit from this who don't necessary need it

 

[Postman Pep]

I'm sure there are quite a lot who benefit from this who don't necessary need it

Here we go again. What about those that do ?

 

[mosssideblue]

Here we go again. What about those that do ?

Read my previous post rather than shoot your load early

 

[bluenova]

Surely they know the far end of a fart of what pensioners are earning and can tell who falls below the threshold

The government doesn't know everyone's financial situation on a day by day basis.

You could combine the tax and benefits systems, but even that only gives a partial picture. They don't know immediately if a couple move in together, or separate, they don't know how much a self-employed person is earning until they put in a tax return, etc.

So, while they can look at past years, and take a sample, and work out roughly how many people they would expect to claim, they can't pro-actively identify everyone who is eligible.

As well as advertising/info campaigns, governments and local councils will employ people to actively try and locate those not claiming, but it's more a case of going out and talking to pensioners about their living situations, rather than just looking it all up on a computer.

 

[mosssideblue]

The government doesn't know everyone's financial situation on a day by day basis.

You could combine the tax and benefits systems, but even that only gives a partial picture. They don't know immediately if a couple move in together, or separate, they don't know how much a self-employed person is earning until they put in a tax return, etc.

So, while they can look at past years, and take a sample, and work out roughly how many people they would expect to claim, they can't pro-actively identify everyone who is eligible.

As well as advertising/info campaigns, governments and local councils will employ people to actively try and locate those not claiming, but it's more a case of going out and talking to pensioners about their living situations, rather than just looking it all up on a computer.

fair enough, I was only musing

 

[mackenzie]

No problem in scrapping the single occupancy if done fairly

If you have one working adult paying the same as a household that has two or even three working adults then how is that fair? Unless you are considering some kind of means testing on the incomes involved? Which would cost something in the administration involved.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

So, we have the WFA, CT discount, bus passes, and now single occupancy.

All them would be a ‘specific’ attack on our poorer pensioners, are any of them about to happen?

Depends which red top you read

 

[Postman Pep]

Read my previous post rather than shoot your load early

I mean your immediate response to the poster who first raised this possibility was to accuse them of shit stirring so glass houses and all that.

As for your previous post there is not much to add to Mackenzie's reply except that it not just unfair in terms of affordability. Single occupancy households are less of a strain on services than multi occupancy so why should they pay the same anyway.

If you are so keen on taking money off people who don't need it why aren't you advocating for wealth taxes?