The Labour Government

I hope for all our sakes it is not. Our country will be bankrupted if this shower are in for that long.
It already was. Tories had set taxes at their highest since ww2 and we have a massive financial black hole. This is due to successive Tory governments being rubbish, including the luz truss episode which was on a par with Brian cloughs spell as Leeds manager.
 
So I'm less entitled to have an opinion than you am I?
You have a bias, and a bad one at that.

Labour have inherrited a shit show and will need time to get things right. You (and one or two others) are being totally unrealistic in your immediate expectations and simply piling in on Labour tag lag.

At least when the Tories were being criticised, it was for things they had done, not what people were thinking they might do.

Labour have done some good things and some not so good things so far, but we haven't had a budget yet and already, you claim they will bankrupt the country. Care to explain how
 
It already was. Tories had set taxes at their highest since ww2 and we have a massive financial black hole. This is due to successive Tory governments being rubbish, including the luz truss episode which was on a par with Brian cloughs spell as Leeds manager.
We all know we didn't have a £22bn black hole. It's a forecast of projected spend against budgeted spend, out of total a £1.2 Trillion. And of the £22, £9 is Labour spending that the Tories were not going spend and £11 is a ridiculous overseas climate change project budget for dickhead Milliband.

So you may have bought into the £22bn lie (I seriously doubt that you have) but no-one other than the few Labour zealots actually have, so we can forget that.

Anyway, putting that aside completely, how ironic that you and the Labour party should criticize the very high tax levels we have already, on the eve of your party increasing them further.
 
We all know we didn't have a £22bn black hole. It's a forecast of projected spend against budgeted spend, out of total a £1.2 Trillion. And of the £22, £9 is Labour spending that the Tories were not going spend and £11 is a ridiculous overseas climate change project budget for dickhead Milliband.

So you may have bought into the £22bn lie (I seriously doubt that you have) but no-one other than the few Labour zealots actually have, so we can forget that.

Anyway, putting that aside completely, how ironic that you and the Labour party should criticize the very high tax levels we have already, on the eve of your party increasing them further.
Yes, but we all know labour are the party of high taxation don't we?
The Tories claim not to be. They've had a good old go and made an absolute pigs ear of the economy by any measure. To try and blame this on the current govt or a labour one of a decade and a half ago is deluded.
 
We all know we didn't have a £22bn black hole. It's a forecast of projected spend against budgeted spend, out of total a £1.2 Trillion. And of the £22, £9 is Labour spending that the Tories were not going spend and £11 is a ridiculous overseas climate change project budget for dickhead Milliband.

So you may have bought into the £22bn lie (I seriously doubt that you have) but no-one other than the few Labour zealots actually have, so we can forget that.

Anyway, putting that aside completely, how ironic that you and the Labour party should criticize the very high tax levels we have already, on the eve of your party increasing them further.
Forgetting the money situation for one moment - do you think the country was in good shape otherwise?

You seem informed, so what tax rises can we expect Rachel to announce at the end of the month?
 
You have a bias, and a bad one at that.

Labour have inherrited a shit show and will need time to get things right. You (and one or two others) are being totally unrealistic in your immediate expectations and simply piling in on Labour tag lag.

At least when the Tories were being criticised, it was for things they had done, not what people were thinking they might do.

Labour have done some good things and some not so good things so far, but we haven't had a budget yet and already, you claim they will bankrupt the country. Care to explain how

He’s absolutely desperate for that to happen- it’s obvious and everyone knows it.

He’s also probably gutted Labour have sorted out the riots, ended strikes in the health and travel industry and started tackling the economic damage the Tories left us.
 
you claim they will bankrupt the country. Care to explain how
They are addicted to spending money. They will do so persistently throughout their time in office, repeatedly increasing taxes and increasing borrowing to pay for yet more government spending. It's what Labour always do. It's what Blair and Brown did and Callaghan and Wilson before them.

They will increase worker's rights and employment regulations to the point that employers can't grow so fast and don't want to employ so many people, so they will push up unemployment, reducing tax receipts and increasing benefits costs further. More people will be unemployed when they leave office than when they came in. As has always been the case with every Labour government in the past 100 years.

The budget in a couple of weeks time will be just the first step. I fully expect Reeves to announce that she's changing the fiscal rules to allow more borrowing, so it will be interesting to see the market's reaction to that.
 
Where’s the strikes gone from D


He’s absolutely desperate for that to happen- it’s obvious and everyone knows it.

He’s also probably gutted Labour have sorted out the riots, ended strikes in the health and travel industry and tackling the economic damage the Tories left us.
Christ knows what state the country would be in if the Tories were still in power today
 
They are addicted to spending money. They will do so persistently throughout their time in office, repeatedly increasing taxes and increasing borrowing to pay for yet more government spending. It's what Labour always do. It's what Blair and Brown did and Callaghan and Wilson before them.

They will increase worker's rights and employment regulations to the point that employers can't grow so fast and don't want to employ so many people, so they will push up unemployment, reducing tax receipts and increasing benefits costs further. More people will be unemployed when they leave office than when they came in. As has always been the case with every Labour government in the past 100 years.

The budget in a couple of weeks time will be just the first step. I fully expect Reeves to announce that she's changing the fiscal rules to allow more borrowing, so it will be interesting to see the market's reaction to that.
If we accept all that as true, how will it make this country any worse than it has been for the last 13 years?
 
tackling the economic damage the Tories left us.
How are they doing that exactly?

You talk about me being desperate. That's a joke. What's desperate is you hanging on to the idea that the past 100 days have not been a complete cluster fuck.
 

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