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Blue Maverick said:
Or mass cook at a weekend and freeze decent meals, doesn’t take long to make a pot of spaghetti bol or chilli, stick some frozen chips on the side from an air fryer 10 mins job done.
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Why use frozen chips what's up with buying a bag of potatoes and doing wedges, healthier and cheaper. The problem is it takes thought and planning, something that some people seem incapable of doing.

Whilst we dont need to, every week we know on a Friday what meals we will be having the following week. We do it as we just dont like food waste, its bad for the environment and your wallet.

Stews, Chilli, Curry etc we regularly get it prepped at 6am before going to work, takes all of 10mins, bung it in the slow cooker on the lowest setting and its done for when we get home on an evening.

I seriously think if we taught people how to cook from a young age it would make people healthier and wealthier.
 
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Kompany Car said:
Why use frozen chips what's up with buying a bag of potatoes and doing wedges, healthier and cheaper. The problem is it takes thought and planning, something that some people seem incapable of doing.

Whilst we dont need to, every week we know on a Friday what meals we will be having the following week. We do it as we just dont like food waste, its bad for the environment and your wallet.

Stews, Chilli, Curry etc we regularly get it prepped at 6am before going to work, takes all of 10mins, bung it in the slow cooker on the lowest setting and its done for when we get home on an evening.

I seriously think if we taught people how to cook from a young age it would make people healthier and wealthier.
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Totally agree but sadly, appears a dying art with recent generations
 
Blue Maverick said:
Fast food isn’t cheap anymore though, even McDs is declining because they charge too much and have you been to a chippy lately. I agree £1 frozen pizza etc is too easy, it’s not hard to make a block of meals at a weekend, there are 24 hours in a day, in 2 hours I could knock up enough meals for a week than can be frozen and defrosted when needed and a fraction of the cost of taking 3 kids to McDs for one meal.
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I've been following this little food discussion and my thought was I don't have any idea who here is or isn't talking from a position of knowledge. By which I mean with an actual lived or at least observed understanding of what it's like to be for instance a single parent of three kids.

This is not having a pop at anyone it's just the fact that I'm a middle-aged (just about still!) bloke brought up in a nuclear family, with his own nuclear family and who's never as an adult or parent really been on the breadline etc. So I literally have no idea if any thoughts I have formed have any basis in reality and I don't know who's speaking from a position of knowledge.

Anyway I thought I wonder if I can get a bit of an insight by looking online? So I had a bit of a search and it's striking how little unmediated information there is out there. You can find loads of poverty porn documentaries or politically loaded content and lots of policy stuff where people determine xyz is the issue. But I really struggled to find unadulterated stories of people's lived experience that I could read or listen to without there being an angle. Most stuff is either pitting people against each other or is frivolous bollocks, doubtless there's dry stuff in academic journals somewhere.

It occurred to me we have so much technology now but in some ways understand each others lived experience even less than we used to. How valuable would a national of archive of people talking about their own lives in unmediated terms be in establishing a better understanding of and maybe even empathy for each other? Instead we have Instagram and tiktok. Not sure wtf my point is; late night last night maybe I need a power nap.
 
threespires said:
I've been following this little food discussion and my thought was I don't have any idea who here is or isn't talking from a position of knowledge. By which I mean with an actual lived or at least observed understanding of what it's like to be for instance a single parent of three kids.

This is not having a pop at anyone it's just the fact that I'm a middle-aged (just about still!) bloke brought up in a nuclear family, with his own nuclear family and who's never as an adult or parent really been on the breadline etc. So I literally have no idea if any thoughts I have formed have any basis in reality and I don't know who's speaking from a position of knowledge.

Anyway I thought I wonder if I can get a bit of an insight by looking online? So I had a bit of a search and it's striking how little unmediated information there is out there. You can find loads of poverty porn documentaries or politically loaded content and lots of policy stuff where people determine xyz is the issue. But I really struggled to find unadulterated stories of people's lived experience that I could read or listen to without there being an angle. Most stuff is either pitting people against each other or is frivolous bollocks, doubtless there's dry stuff in academic journals somewhere.

It occurred to me we have so much technology now but in some ways understand each others lived experience even less than we used to. How valuable would a national of archive of people talking about their own lives in unmediated terms be in establishing a better understanding of and maybe even empathy for each other? Instead we have Instagram and tiktok. Not sure wtf my point is; late night last night maybe I need a power nap.
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There was a series on tv with Michael Portillo who stood in for a single mum in Liverpool. She had three part time jobs to enable her to look after 3(?) kids.
Portillo exclaimed: “I had no idea people lived like this.” This was a man who tried to become prime minister. Millions, Michael, do what that woman did.
 
TinFoilHat said:
That's what the blairite was put there for. She was promoting this shit last time she was in cabinet.
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Yep, and anyone who mentioned it was called a Tory and told to shut up. The Labour cheerleaders can add it to the list of "achievements".


I'm sure they'll move left soon though, any second now.
 
threespires said:
I've been following this little food discussion and my thought was I don't have any idea who here is or isn't talking from a position of knowledge. By which I mean with an actual lived or at least observed understanding of what it's like to be for instance a single parent of three kids.

This is not having a pop at anyone it's just the fact that I'm a middle-aged (just about still!) bloke brought up in a nuclear family, with his own nuclear family and who's never as an adult or parent really been on the breadline etc. So I literally have no idea if any thoughts I have formed have any basis in reality and I don't know who's speaking from a position of knowledge.

Anyway I thought I wonder if I can get a bit of an insight by looking online? So I had a bit of a search and it's striking how little unmediated information there is out there. You can find loads of poverty porn documentaries or politically loaded content and lots of policy stuff where people determine xyz is the issue. But I really struggled to find unadulterated stories of people's lived experience that I could read or listen to without there being an angle. Most stuff is either pitting people against each other or is frivolous bollocks, doubtless there's dry stuff in academic journals somewhere.

It occurred to me we have so much technology now but in some ways understand each others lived experience even less than we used to. How valuable would a national of archive of people talking about their own lives in unmediated terms be in establishing a better understanding of and maybe even empathy for each other? Instead we have Instagram and tiktok. Not sure wtf my point is; late night last night maybe I need a power nap.
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Kids are hard to please we when it comes to food I have a 12 year old if she could live off chicken nuggets it sausage chips and gravy she would. We almost force to eat other stuff but slowly and surely she’s come round to healthy stir fry or pasta dishes. I saw a piece on sky I think it was about how kids in Japan love broccoli etc as they are brought up not to hate it. I don’t think it’s a time thing I think it’s a laziness and convenience. My daughter won’t even eat McDs anymore she’d rather have home cooked stuff. She’s currently doing Food tech or in my day it was called home economics learning to make healthy foods it’s great and she’s loving doing it, maybe schools are lacking in this but it’s not down to them it’s down to parents to do it. But like everything these days it will be the government’s fault!
 
TinFoilHat said:
That's what the blairite was put there for. She was promoting this shit last time she was in cabinet.
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I said this the other day, but unless the likes of Nye Bevan were Balirites, the Labour party have wanted to get more people with health issues into work, throughout their history. Supporting people with disabilities, and improving people's health are pretty basic Labour policies.

I didn't see any demonising language in the quotes today, and they said that that getting people to work would be support led.
 
Kompany Car said:
Why use frozen chips what's up with buying a bag of potatoes and doing wedges, healthier and cheaper. The problem is it takes thought and planning, something that some people seem incapable of doing.

Whilst we dont need to, every week we know on a Friday what meals we will be having the following week. We do it as we just dont like food waste, its bad for the environment and your wallet.

Stews, Chilli, Curry etc we regularly get it prepped at 6am before going to work, takes all of 10mins, bung it in the slow cooker on the lowest setting and its done for when we get home on an evening.

I seriously think if we taught people how to cook from a young age it would make people healthier and wealthier.
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Oh I agree mate o just thought if the argument was time then frozen chips are easy but like you say you could even prepare proper chips and freeze them.
 
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