The Labour Government

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Your first paragraph sums up perfectly one of my work colleagues, he has taken it very badly, lashing out on our WhatsApp group and posting all sorts of RWNJ shite, much to my amusement.

The 'sore loser' thing is a bit of a social media phenomenon I think. You see it with a lot of the politics thread on here - they generally attract hate and fear more than discussion. I think it helps some folk to endlessly post memes and shite off their twitter feeds. Personally I'd no more like to see inside someone's twitter account than see inside their arse hole - yet still they post :-(

 

[frothy]

She was a self entitled **** who expected a vote based entirely on her high opinion of herself, and an incorrect assumption that the average person is incapable of thinking for themselves.
I can correlate this with sunaks wife, as she stood behind him as he delivered his final, frankly pathetic speech on downing Street.
She was clearly nonplussed, and not arsed in the slightest. She almost looked embarrassed, as if she knew what we were all thinking.
Stood there in that hilarious dress, laughing inside at us plebs.
They will both be fine, they're millionaires, the only discussion they're having is how to continue the cash cow that was the gullible British people.
Well fuck them, they clearly didn't, and don't, give a flying fuck about you or me, or your family and friends.
Whatever starmer brings, it won't be anywhere near as bad as these self serving smug cunts have tried to feed us.
If there's one thing I hate in society, it's entitled fuckers looking down on working honest people and scorning them.
We're well rid of them, I'm still fucking celebrating lol

Why pick on his wife? Did you expect her to throw herself to the floor sobbing her heart out? What the fuck does it matter what she wears, pathetic

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Starmer has said that his government will be free from the trappings of ideology and he wants to put people in roles for the sole purpose that they will be effective in those roles. He’s basically wanting to turn the government into a technocracy.

So far I have to say his appointments are demonstrating that. Timpson and now Vallance are great appointments.

I’m all for it and no doubt not all of them will be a success but I think Starmer will at least give them some time and stability that the civil service has sorely needed. It’s the opposite of the “country has had enough of experts” garbage we’ve had from incompetent Tory ministers who weren’t fit for their office.

Absolutely. I imagine the civil service will be delighted to have a solid expert who knows how to run teams (Vallance).

People outside the Westminster bubble seem like a decent idea to try!

 

[metalblue]

So Starmer’s cabinet contains 3 people who aren’t MPs

Valance, Timpson, and Hermer.

I think this said it best when Cameron was given a role as a peer in the Tory government,

Really doesn’t say much for the current Conservative Party that there wasn’t a single option in parliament they thought could do the role.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Of course, but putting capable people in positions is usually a sign of competence.

We’ve had 5 years of recycling the same 12 ministers rotating around.

There seems to be a lot less vitriol around today for some reason, although we have a couple of posters on here needing some copium.

The second point - hopefully the ministers will largely stay in place for at least 2 years. Plenty of opportunities to bring in the next group as junior ministers so there isn't a Shapps of all the jobs situation. It would be pretty criminal to let that happen.

Starmer will have to make sure that enough of Labour's powergroups get representation to keep things together.

There'll be months now without a meaningful opposition - we'll hear more from Farage than a Conservative leader - so Labour should be able to move along in an organised manner.

 

[dave_blue12]

Tbh I'd never considered starmers labour landslide in those terms. I think you are stretching the point slightly, but yes it does evidence the sort of 'groupthink' described in the video.

You’re so hilariously funny.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

So Starmer’s cabinet contains 3 people who aren’t MPs

Valance, Timpson, and Hermer.

I think this said it best when Cameron was given a role as a peer in the Tory government,

Vallance and Timpson aren't cabinet posts, they're junior ministers, and the Lords almost always has some of the junior ministers as the govt need spokespeople there as well.

Hermer is 'attends Cabinet' - I don't know the reasoning behind his appointment, it seems a bit of a surprise. However, he's not in charge of the justice system.

They're all lower down the pecking order than Foreign Secretary, and all report to a Cabinet member MP.

 

[Vic]

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I'm not sure I want to discuss such a daft cartoon but the question would be how did the fire spread. 14 years of burning stuff uncontrolled?

 

[west didsblue]

Looking online in a few "neutral spaces", some people are really cut up about Labour winning. Proclamations of the apocalypse, the "end of Britain" I've seen a few times, taxes are going to go through the roof, open borders and millions coming from Africa. It's actually a bit demented.

These are likely the same voters who suggested sensible pushbacks on Brexit were Project Fear, though many of those concerns are now coming to fruition, and yet here they are with this fatalistic nonsense based on nothing. It is literally day one of a new government so frankly nobody has a clue how things are going to pan out.

I guess every accusation is a confession. The true Project Fear was on the right all along. And no doubt if/when their fears are proven to be unsubstantiated, they will just move the goalposts.

There’s no shortage of people who think a Labour win is the start of some sort of apocalypse. One of my wife’s family is convinced her NHS pension is going to be raided even though she’s currently drawing it. 5 years of persistent lies about reality and scaremongering about the opposition preceded by 9 years of false promises have had a significant impact on many people, and it’s going to take years of steady government with no major shocks to deradicalise many of them. Some will always be too far gone.

 

[inchy14]

So Starmer’s cabinet contains 3 people who aren’t MPs

Valance, Timpson, and Hermer.

I think this said it best when Cameron was given a role as a peer in the Tory government,

Maybe, just maybe, he’s used people who understand the role required then just putting anyone in it, ie.. Grant Fucking Schapps.