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The Future’s Blue! said:
Most decent employers are looking forward to new regulations, it’s the dodgy ones who are against them.
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The dodgy ones will believe it or not continue to be dodgy after these rules are brought in.
Good employers are doing everything they can for their employees already. However these rules will hit some small good employers very hard. As it will cost them money and time to implement. It's not all good news. Costs increase so prices will have to go up or margins will just get smaller and smaller in many small businesses especially hospitality.

Let's not forget the Government has to grow the economy to improve everyone's lot and to do that it's has to enable small and medium businesses to grow. Time will tell.
 
TinFoilHat said:
I can only speak from my perspective from the industries I've been in. They have all been profit driven with platitudes about looking after staff and not following through. Dismissing staff rather than supporting them.

It's comes across as a rarity when I see a business that believes in the obvious mantra of keeping your staff, supported and appreciated will increase productivity whilst bullying and gaslighting them won't.
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I think times have changed. Many industries are struggling for skilled staff.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Why would businesses want to exploit employees like you state above. There is a lack of good employee's out there and has been for several years, businesses are doing everything they can to attract and keep staff.

I dont think you fully understand the situation. It's not all big bad employers and good employees.
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They do with some of the contracts particularly those in less skilled sectors e.g. warehouse operatives. Employ them via an agency and then get rid just before they have been there long enough to get any of the benefits on offer.

I agree if you've highly skilled then they need to bend over backwards just to stop you leaving.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Nothing to do with Brexit and the ending of Freedom Of Movement of Labour tho?
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No, of course not.

None of the current challenges facing the nation and the Labour government have anything at all to do with the over decade of supremely competent and gloriously selfless administration from the Tories that came before, when no monumental, existential mistakes were made, and the vast majority of British citizens were increasingly prosperous and content, leading to Labour inheriting one of the strongest and best-positioned iterations of the UK that has ever existed.

They had no real challenges as they took office and so have no excuses for anything not working perfectly from the off.
 
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The cunts that fucked over workers at P&O now trying to do it the country because they don't like any advancement of employment rights.
 
Kompany Car said:
They do with some of the contracts particularly those in less skilled sectors e.g. warehouse operatives. Employ them via an agency and then get rid just before they have been there long enough to get any of the benefits on offer.

I agree if you've highly skilled then they need to bend over backwards just to stop you leaving.
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I understand that, and without a doubt hose practices are wrong. However I fear the government may be using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Small buinesses will undoubtedly suffer disproportionately with these measures. But hey if in two years after implementation we have had continued good growth as a nation it won't matter that much. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating.
 
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The cunts that fucked over workers at P&O now trying to do it the country because they don't like any advancement of employment rights.
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Political naivety at its best.
 
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The cunts that fucked over workers at P&O now trying to do it the country because they don't like any advancement of employment rights.
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Good on starmer calling them out on it
 
kaz7 said:
You dont think we should let them treat their staff like shit again ? Coming on the heels of labour announcing more workers rights here
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I think the issue is the transport secretary Louise Haigh (and Angela Rayner) said P&O was a rouge operator Haigh boycotted P&O and encouraged customers to do the same.

They represents the British people and the greater good of the nation. It’s enough to bring in legalisation to prevent the practice but it’s not ok to slag off a particular firm. The adults aren’t in charge.
 
metalblue said:
I think the issue is the transport secretary Louise Haigh (and Angela Rayner) said P&O was a rouge operator Haigh boycotted P&O and encouraged customers to do the same.

They represents the British people and the greater good of the nation. It’s enough to bring in legalisation to prevent the practice but it’s not ok to slag off a particular firm. The adults aren’t in charge.
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Come on now P&O were utter cunts to sack their staff and rehire on worse terms , both tories and labour condemned it at the time , i am happy that labour are not sweet talking them for a deal
 
metalblue said:
I think the issue is the transport secretary Louise Haigh (and Angela Rayner) said P&O was a rouge operator Haigh boycotted P&O and encouraged customers to do the same.

They represents the British people and the greater good of the nation. It’s enough to bring in legalisation to prevent the practice but it’s not ok to slag off a particular firm. The adults aren’t in charge.
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kaz7 said:
Come on now P&O were utter cunts to sack their staff and rehire on worse terms , both tories and labour condemned it at the time , i am happy that labour are not sweet talking them for a deal
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It was appalling practice- it’s absolutely right to bring in legislation to prevent it. Why then run around like a couple of sixth form students slagging the company off and encouraging consumers to boycott them? It’s all well and good for a causal observer like you or I to slag them off, but it’s not ok for a government minister to.

This is going to make other firms sit up and wonder how pro business Labour are. Not only that but this is going to cost jobs and restrict our ability to import (which impacts growth) - if it’s not salvaged.
 
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If businesses had treated their workers properly over the years, there would have been no trade unions (and thus no Labour Party) and regulation of the workplace would never have been considered necessary. No one passes an Act to make the sun rise.

You reap what you sow. Too many bad employers bringing consequences on the rest. See also, landlords.
 
BrianW said:
If businesses had treated their workers properly over the years, there would have been no trade unions (and thus no Labour Party) and regulation of the workplace would never have been considered necessary. No one passes an Act to make the sun rise.

You reap what you sow. Too many bad employers bringing consequences on the rest. See also, landlords.
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Absolutely right. Interestingly 12% of private sector workers feel the need to be in a union versus nearly 50% of public sector workers

You might be forgiven for thinking that the biggest **** of an employer is the government.
 
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