The Labour Government

[paulchapo]

Hence our contributions abroad

11 billion to Africa seem a bit ott. That country is rife with corruption so I will be surprised if it's actually used for what it was given for.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

They have plenty of money, haven't they just sent 50 million to Syria? That's on top of 11 billion to Africa for some climate claptrap, which will go straight into upgrading the mansions of the dictators in that country, plus our regular top up to Ukraine. We elect these governments to serve the people of this country first and foremost but they seem to delight in making our own citizens suffer while throwing money hand over fist abroad. It's gaslighting of the highest order.

Is Africa a county?

It's 11 billion over the course of 5 years.

We could always give less and just wait until more African migrants turn up on the shores of Europe.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I get her point but not the best look

The correct decision. The Waspi women come across as living on cloud cuckoo land and are actually a selfish group. They expected women born after the cut-off to be get what they were given and there was plenty of factionalism and infighting within their pressure groups. For a single issue group that's damning and reflects their type of individuals involved.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Give it 5 mins and it will all be the Tories fault…



Boom!

For some, it's the previous Governments fault when the Government doesn't do something because there is no money and when they do and raise taxes it's also the previous Governemnts fault. The bit they conveniently forget is it's not the previous Government who decide where the money is spent, as Paulchapo points out.

 

[meltonblue]

For some, it's the previous Governments fault when the Government doesn't do something because there is no money and when they do and raise taxes it's also the previous Governemnts fault. The bit they conveniently forget is it's not the previous Government who decide where the money is spent, as Paulchapo points out.

Depends if a government wants to honour a previous governments commitments too, particularly internationally.

 

[blueparrot]

11 billion to Africa seem a bit ott. That country is rife with corruption so I will be surprised if it's actually used for what it was given for.

Africa isn’t a country, it’s a collection of many very different countries.

 

[blueinsa]

So on the new hit list in no particular order are farmers, pensioners and women of a certain age.

Whose next?

 

[bluethrunthru]

The correct decision. The Waspi women come across as living on cloud cuckoo land and are actually a selfish group. They expected women born after the cut-off to be get what they were given and there was plenty of factionalism and infighting within their pressure groups. For a single issue group that's damning and reflects their type of individuals involved.

I think the main issue as far as I am concerned is that they were strung along being told it would be fixed by a Govt that had no intention of doing so - see

Rishi Sunak hints at help for Waspi women as he promises 'thoughtful response' to damning report

The prime minister says he has a "track record" on acting over compensation schemes as an ombudsman recommends thousands of pounds in compensation for women born in the 1950s.

news.sky.com

 

[meltonblue]

So on the new hit list in no particular order are farmers, pensioners and women of a certain age.

Whose next?

They’ve hit businesses far more than any of those groups.

Whether it’ll work, we’ll have to wait and see.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Africa isn’t a country, it’s a collection of many very different countries.

54 to be exact - the poster must assume they are all corrupt - meanwhile our own Tory Govt, mates and PPE?

 

[hilts]

So on the new hit list in no particular order are farmers, pensioners and women of a certain age.

Whose next?

Gregg Wallace approves of the last one

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I think the main issue as far as I am concerned is that they were strung along being told it would be fixed by a Govt that had no intention of doing so - see

Rishi Sunak hints at help for Waspi women as he promises 'thoughtful response' to damning report

The prime minister says he has a "track record" on acting over compensation schemes as an ombudsman recommends thousands of pounds in compensation for women born in the 1950s.

news.sky.com

That's not particularly unique to Waspi women and it's obvious Sunak made a promise he knew he had no ability to keep because he wasn't going to be returned to office.

Unlike the contaminated blood scandal and the post office corruption there's no moral imperative to give the money to these women.

 

[bluethrunthru]

That's not particularly unique to Waspi women and it's obvious Sunak made a promise he knew he had no ability to keep because he wasn't going to be returned to office.

Unlike the contaminated blood scandal and the post office corruption there's no moral imperative to give the money to these women.

and to those who say Labour campaigned with these women at that time Labour had no idea as to how dire Britains finances were to be left to them - That is a real point they need repeat again and again rather than smash the gangs

 

[TinFoilHat]

I get her point but not the best look

Cue the daily Heil/Gammon News etc

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Depends if a government wants to honour a previous governments commitments too, particularly internationally.

Many don't.

 

[paulchapo]

54 to be exact - the poster must assume they are all corrupt - meanwhile our own Tory Govt, mates and PPE?

The poster doesn't assume they are all corrupt but mismanagement of funds in that area does happen a lot. If they're giving 11 billion of my money to it, as a taxpayer I contribute to that money, I want to see how it's used and what benefits it's having.
Our own government and the previous one are corrupt too.

 

[ZenHalfTimeCrock]

11 billion to Africa seem a bit ott. That country is rife with corruption so I will be surprised if it's actually used for what it was given for.

That’s what I used to think but the corruption argument gets rebutted in Ha Joon Chang’s book Bad Samaritans. Chang was a specialist in development economics before he went on to become one of the UK’s leading academics.

Can’t be arsed doing one of my longer posts that summarizes his thinking on this occasion. But the book is actually quite entertaining to read. Chapter 8 is the one to look at (‘Should we turn our backs on corrupt and undemocratic countries?’).

 

[hilts]

Politicians don't you just love them, this 22bn black hole seems to be like a Labour anti nom dom pledge. Before the election non doms were gonna pay for fucking everything and after the election the black hole is stopping them doing fucking everything.

 

[meltonblue]

Many don't.

Yep and it’s a balancing act, our international standing is still one of our best assets.

 

[law74]

So on the new hit list in no particular order are farmers, pensioners and women of a certain age.

Whose next?

You seem to have missed the children of "ordinary people" who currently pay £5,500 a term to give their children the connections required to get rich in monetary terms.