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metalblue said:
I don’t think we will agree on what he meant - he rarely knows himself so pointless anyone trying to second guess.

I’ve not read the article as it’s the telegraph and going to be behind a paywall. Do we have all the facts and figures - eg how long she worked, how much stamp she paid, etc etc to be able to draw any conclusions as to her income?
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If you're second guessing what someone meant, then maybe lay off on assuming he's a "nasty spiteful fucker"?

The article says she has the "full new state pension", and a teacher's pension, and refers to her working as a teacher multiple times, including in the sub-headline. They mention the £3 as being the 'cut off point', as if she missed out by just £3, in the very same paragraph that says she gets a teacher's pension.

Ironically, the Telegraph is the paper with the most articles complaining about teacher's pensions being too high :/
 
Hmm, Brexit is one of the reasons we are in the shitty place we are. Not the only reason, but one, and one that will not go away.

It's scarcely a socialist budget that takes a benefit away from most/many pensioners. It's actually a budget that seeks to 'balance the books' which is what people have been told is desirable over the last 40 years.

As I have mentioned before, there are no simple, easy answers and anyone who says that there are is either deluded or disingenuous. All the choices are shit - apart, possibly, from joining the EU Customs Union, which would be painless and both cut bureaucracy and boost the currency. But for political reasons, Starmer has had to rule that out, as he has had to rule out raising all the fairest taxes.
 
bluenova said:
If you're second guessing what someone meant, then maybe lay off on assuming he's a "nasty spiteful fucker"?

The article says she has the "full new state pension", and a teacher's pension, and refers to her working as a teacher multiple times, including in the sub-headline. They mention the £3 as being the 'cut off point', as if she missed out by just £3, in the very same paragraph that says she gets a teacher's pension.

Ironically, the Telegraph is the paper with the most articles complaining about teacher's pensions being too high :/
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Nah you’re alright he has form on this topic.

Do you have a link to the article that’s not behind a paywall?
 
BrianW said:
Hmm, Brexit is one of the reasons we are in the shitty place we are. Not the only reason, but one, and one that will not go away.

It's scarcely a socialist budget that takes a benefit away from most/many pensioners. It's actually a budget that seeks to 'balance the books' which is what people have been told is desirable over the last 40 years.

As I have mentioned before, there are no simple, easy answers and anyone who says that there are is either deluded or disingenuous. All the choices are shit - apart, possibly, from joining the EU Customs Union, which would be painless and both cut bureaucracy and boost the currency. But for political reasons, Starmer has had to rule that out, as he has had to rule out raising all the fairest taxes.
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Why has he had to rule them out. He has such a huge majority in Parliament he's pretty much invulnerable at the moment
 
Starmer being publicly forced to say he has full confidence in Reeves suggests her time is fast running out.
 
metalblue said:
Nah you’re alright he has form on this topic.

Do you have a link to the article that’s not behind a paywall?
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Not sure I can link directly to sites, but if you wanted to remove a paywall, you can probably work out what to Google.
 
Really_here said:
That's quite funny actually.
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But true unfortunately. They were crazy to rule out rises in personal taxes, especially VAT. But imagine the DM headlines if they had not done so. It's the fear of press reaction that forces politicians of all persuasions to back themselves into a corner and make untenable promises.
 
hampshireblue said:
The Scottish inquiry is now over 8 years old and still nowhere near finished.
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There are 2 choices

1/ act upon the info you have from the results of an enquiry that you have paid for

2/ have another lengthy enquiry and kick the can down the road - the Tory way - Grenfell, Horizon and so on. Grenfell £170m - Horizon £135m - cheaper than actually paying the compensation and effecting the results recommended
 
bluethrunthru said:
There are 2 choices

1/ act upon the info you have from the results of an enquiry that you have paid for

2/ have another lengthy enquiry and kick the can down the road - the Tory way - Grenfell, Horizon and so on. Grenfell £170m - Horizon £135m - cheaper than actually paying the compensation and effecting the results recommended
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1 seems sensible. They should take a deep dive into the information they already have on the matter and act accordingly. Amongst other things that saves victims going through the whole evidence process again It may take 6 months but that's better than 7 years. I wonder when the investigation into the 95% of cases perpetrated by white men will be called for and start?
 
hampshireblue said:
1 seems sensible. They should take a deep dive into the information they already have on the matter and act accordingly. Amongst other things that saves victims going through the whole evidence process again It may take 6 months but that's better than 7 years. I wonder when the investigation into the 95% of cases perpetrated by white men will be called for and start?
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Thing with it is there is nothing to stop both being a good answer. As you say act upon what you have but be aware that as things are learned as it goes along you can pull other lines in to what you are doing. Its just another confected war by opposition Party's who need to make stuff binary rather than a nuanced argument because they cannot adapt from their old mindset
 
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