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The Labour Government
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Rascal
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I see Musk stroking a white cat sat on his lap.That would be as wrong as someone saying silencing Musk is more important to them than protecting children and bringing the guilty to justice.
Mr Kobayashi
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I see Musk stroking a white cat sat on his lap.
Rascal
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Seeing as there is no thread on the grooming gang scandal, its probably best i put my thoughts here.
There should be a full national enquiry into grooming gangs, just to highlight why those on the far right are exploiting young girls for political capital
A previous piece of research from 2015 found that of 1,231 perpetrators of "group and gang-based child sexual exploitation", 42% were white, 14% were defined as Asian or Asian British and 17% black.
The problem is that the data is from only 19 out of more than 40 police forces and nearly a decade old
What I do find disturbing is this, children, often from deprived backgrounds, were dismissed as "lacking in credibility" their abusers were allowed to get away with subjecting them to horrific abuse, for too long.
The inquiry into the Telford abuse scandal, which published its report in 2022, found police dismissive of claims of abuse, with one saying "these girls had chosen to go with, I don't know, 'bad boys'".
We need finally to accept what credible research has been telling us for years: that child sexual abuse is not a “Muslim problem” but is endemic to virtually all communities. Look at the numbers: the sheer scale makes the ubiquity of abuse inevitable. An estimated one in 13 adults in England has been sexually abused as children. In 2019/20, police across the UK recorded more than 73,518 sexual offences against children, and the Home Office review itself reminds us that only around one in 10 victims actually disclose child sexual abuse to an official at the time
I have not seen one solid conclusion that people of certain ethnicities groom young girls for sex, the one common denominator as i see it is that it always involves men and a few women who are sexual deviants.
It is time we get to the real truth, far too many young girls and boys have suffered from sexual abuse and it needs to stop. it needs to stop now.
We need to hold a full national inquiry right now to stop those on the idiotic fringe of the far right spreading their poison even further.
There should be a full national enquiry into grooming gangs, just to highlight why those on the far right are exploiting young girls for political capital
A previous piece of research from 2015 found that of 1,231 perpetrators of "group and gang-based child sexual exploitation", 42% were white, 14% were defined as Asian or Asian British and 17% black.
The problem is that the data is from only 19 out of more than 40 police forces and nearly a decade old
What I do find disturbing is this, children, often from deprived backgrounds, were dismissed as "lacking in credibility" their abusers were allowed to get away with subjecting them to horrific abuse, for too long.
The inquiry into the Telford abuse scandal, which published its report in 2022, found police dismissive of claims of abuse, with one saying "these girls had chosen to go with, I don't know, 'bad boys'".
We need finally to accept what credible research has been telling us for years: that child sexual abuse is not a “Muslim problem” but is endemic to virtually all communities. Look at the numbers: the sheer scale makes the ubiquity of abuse inevitable. An estimated one in 13 adults in England has been sexually abused as children. In 2019/20, police across the UK recorded more than 73,518 sexual offences against children, and the Home Office review itself reminds us that only around one in 10 victims actually disclose child sexual abuse to an official at the time
I have not seen one solid conclusion that people of certain ethnicities groom young girls for sex, the one common denominator as i see it is that it always involves men and a few women who are sexual deviants.
It is time we get to the real truth, far too many young girls and boys have suffered from sexual abuse and it needs to stop. it needs to stop now.
We need to hold a full national inquiry right now to stop those on the idiotic fringe of the far right spreading their poison even further.
bluethrunthru
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And Chris Philp. The little fucking weasel.
he isn't crying he is just gulping again and again and again
Alan Harper's Tash
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If that were the case, it’d be all over the right wing press.Run by an establishment millionaire, who has condemned 100’s of old people to death by taking away their winter fuel allowance, as he stays nice and warm in 10 Downing Street, paid by the tax payer, the ****!
So far, one hack has tried it with his own grandmother, but it transpires that he comes from a hugely affluent family and was a totally fictitious story.
bluethrunthru
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seriously make this a thread and copy and paste this over there as a starter - it should not be a Party political issue - if it was thats like saying I dunno only librarians park on zigs zags and they are Lib Dems - take it to its own thread and lets debate the truthSeeing as there is no thread on the grooming gang scandal, its probably best i put my thoughts here.
There should be a full national enquiry into grooming gangs, just to highlight why those on the far right are exploiting young girls for political capital
A previous piece of research from 2015 found that of 1,231 perpetrators of "group and gang-based child sexual exploitation", 42% were white, 14% were defined as Asian or Asian British and 17% black.
The problem is that the data is from only 19 out of more than 40 police forces and nearly a decade old
What I do find disturbing is this, children, often from deprived backgrounds, were dismissed as "lacking in credibility" their abusers were allowed to get away with subjecting them to horrific abuse, for too long.
The inquiry into the Telford abuse scandal, which published its report in 2022, found police dismissive of claims of abuse, with one saying "these girls had chosen to go with, I don't know, 'bad boys'".
We need finally to accept what credible research has been telling us for years: that child sexual abuse is not a “Muslim problem” but is endemic to virtually all communities. Look at the numbers: the sheer scale makes the ubiquity of abuse inevitable. An estimated one in 13 adults in England has been sexually abused as children. In 2019/20, police across the UK recorded more than 73,518 sexual offences against children, and the Home Office review itself reminds us that only around one in 10 victims actually disclose child sexual abuse to an official at the time
I have not seen one solid conclusion that people of certain ethnicities groom young girls for sex, the one common denominator as i see it is that it always involves men and a few women who are sexual deviants.
It is time we get to the real truth, far too many young girls and boys have suffered from sexual abuse and it needs to stop. it needs to stop now.
We need to hold a full national inquiry right now to stop those on the idiotic fringe of the far right spreading their poison even further.
metalblue
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I see Musk stroking a white cat sat on his lap.
Great to see you back posting mate
It's simple really. Find a pensioner who says "I don't know if I'll survive the winter" and make that news while the vast majority of pensioners know they don't need the WFP. Maybe find a pensioner who is now much better off thanks to the publicity on claiming pension credit.If that were the case, it’d be all over the right wing press.
So far, one hack has tried it with his own grandmother, but it transpires that he comes from a hugely affluent family and was a totally fictitious story.
Caveat: pensions are still low compared to other European countries, and the pension credit threshold needs sorting to avoid the anomaly it creates.
Plus losing the WFP (£6 a week after a £45 a week pension increase over 3 years) is as nothing compared to the threat to the triple lock. The guy who came up with the triple lock was on the radio this a.m. arguing that taxpayers now should be in favour of it because it will increase their pensions when they retire - as if pension age has not already been raised because pensions are unaffordable! And Badenoch talking about means testing the state pension - a clear disincentive to put into a private pension.
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It’s a mess. I said on here that I wouldn’t have stopped the WFA so suddenly, given the ongoing cost of energy, but it’s not had the outcome I feared it might so far.It's simple really. Find a pensioner who says "I don't know if I'll survive the winter" and make that news while the vast majority of pensioners know they don't need the WFP. Maybe find a pensioner who is now much better off thanks to the publicity on claiming pension credit.
Caveat: pensions are still low compared to other European countries, and the pension credit threshold needs sorting to avoid the anomaly it creates.
Plus losing the WFP (£6 a week after a £45 a week pension increase over 3 years) is as nothing compared to the threat to the triple lock. The guy who came up with the triple lock was on the radio this a.m. arguing that taxpayers now should be in favour of it because it will increase their pensions when they retire - as if pension age has not already been raised because pensions are unaffordable! And Badenoch talking about means testing the state pension - a clear disincentive to put into a private pension.
The cost of the elderly is obviously an ongoing and increasing problem and I don’t know how it’s fixed. It has to be being mismanaged if the rest of Europe somehow manage to pay their pensioners more and deal with their healthcare etc.
gordondaviesmoustache
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Don’t you think it’s best to wait 100 years before seeing how the WFA works out?It's simple really. Find a pensioner who says "I don't know if I'll survive the winter" and make that news while the vast majority of pensioners know they don't need the WFP. Maybe find a pensioner who is now much better off thanks to the publicity on claiming pension credit.
Caveat: pensions are still low compared to other European countries, and the pension credit threshold needs sorting to avoid the anomaly it creates.
Plus losing the WFP (£6 a week after a £45 a week pension increase over 3 years) is as nothing compared to the threat to the triple lock. The guy who came up with the triple lock was on the radio this a.m. arguing that taxpayers now should be in favour of it because it will increase their pensions when they retire - as if pension age has not already been raised because pensions are unaffordable! And Badenoch talking about means testing the state pension - a clear disincentive to put into a private pension.
I'm not sure they are managing and dealing that well. Cost of pensions and aged health issues and the cost of them are universal problems.It’s a mess. I said on here that I wouldn’t have stopped the WFA so suddenly, given the ongoing cost of energy, but it’s not had the outcome I feared it might so far.
The cost of the elderly is obviously an ongoing and increasing problem and I don’t know how it’s fixed. It has to be being mismanaged if the rest of Europe somehow manage to pay their pensioners more and deal with their healthcare etc.
My retired nurse friend tells me that 16% of hospital beds are occupied by elderly patients just waiting a suitable care setting.
And also how many beds are occupied by people who are going to die in the next few months - admissions of people who would in former times have died at home. The corollary is that if you're over 85 and admitted to hospital it's an even chance that you'll not see the year out...
"Most people are admitted to hospital during their final months, amounting to millions of ‘hospital bed-days’ especially during the last three months of life. Older people in the last year of life are major contributors to inpatient stays which vary by cause of death."
west didsblue
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If the government can make significant inroads into solving the care crisis, it would have a bigger beneficial impact on the NHS than any number of billions of extra money being spent on it. As you say there are far too many beds occupied by people that need care and not treatment, and if those people don’t have family that will make representations on the patient’s behalf to get them out of hospital into a care setting it’s all too easy to leave them in hospital till they die where they’re not getting the proper care they need and any treatment they’re getting could be provided anywhere. Releasing those hospital beds and making them available for people who actually need hospital treatment should be a number one priority for government.I'm not sure they are managing and dealing that well. Cost of pensions and aged health issues and the cost of them are universal problems.
My retired nurse friend tells me that 16% of hospital beds are occupied by elderly patients just waiting a suitable care setting.
And also how many beds are occupied by people who are going to die in the next few months - admissions of people who would in former times have died at home. The corollary is that if you're over 85 and admitted to hospital it's an even chance that you'll not see the year out...
"Most people are admitted to hospital during their final months, amounting to millions of ‘hospital bed-days’ especially during the last three months of life. Older people in the last year of life are major contributors to inpatient stays which vary by cause of death."
Really_here
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My eldest lad is just about to buy his first house and mentioned stamp duty. I said it's under 250k so you should be OK. Turns out it changes to 125k on April 1st and if he completes 31/03 no tax is due. On 1/4 the tax will be £1200. How many houses these days are 125k or less? Another example of taxing those with the least money !
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Not sure where you’ve/he’s got that from as 1st time buyers don’t pay SD. Tell him to confirm with his solicitor.My eldest lad is just about to buy his first house and mentioned stamp duty. I said it's under 250k so you should be OK. Turns out it changes to 125k on April 1st and if he completes 31/03 no tax is due. On 1/4 the tax will be £1200. How many houses these days are 125k or less? Another example of taxing those with the least money !
Really_here
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Just done bit of googling and it sounds like you're right as the house is less than £300k.Not sure where you’ve/he’s got that from as 1st time buyers don’t pay SD. Tell him to confirm with his solicitor.
Thanks 8-)
Really_here
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Bit of added complexity, he's never owned property but his partner has and they're buying jointly, she had a motgage years ago, sounds like they need to check with their solicitor. Best solution is they complete before March 31st !!Just done bit of googling and it sounds like you're right as the house is less than £300k.
Thanks 8-)
hilts
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Imagine voting for one party no matter what eh Vic:-)But you'd still vote for the spineless Tories...