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The so called asylum seekers and small boat arrivals, how does anybody know where they have come from? They destroy any documentation before they get here.

They are here for one thing only the Welfare State, paid for by you and me.

In the UK asylum seekers receive around £50 per week. In Germany they receive around £100 per week. In Sweden I think they even get free food.

So, probably not here solely for our bountiful State benefits. Perhaps it’s the weather that tips the balance in our favour. Although we take far fewer asylum seekers than Germany, so no, that isn’t helping either.
 
this is like when Johnson honoured his hair dresser when he left office - once again I am amazed to learn there was somebody doing this job - I thought like the hair dresser this was a mythical beast

 
Not yet but if accepted that is what they will be claiming, they thing the streets are paved with gold.

just Googled it - Govt websites will tell you that its nothing approaching what you think it is now. Without an NI number how would they access benefits?
 
Not yet but if accepted that is what they will be claiming, they thing the streets are paved with gold.

£50 a week, mate. To be fair that’s a lot of Organic Wave Ring Packs. Mind you, big boost to the economy if they all pile in on this offer.

 
Define ‘get to grips with’? Should they starve or live on the streets? Does that help you or anyone else?

Instead of meaningless phrases, spell out your solution. Go.
I think this cuts both ways Bob.

As Macron said " France cannot take in all the misery in the world" and nor can we , but how much of it are you willing to take?

Lets put aside what is currently legal or illegal or any semantics around that but I am sure we can agree that war, famine, climate change etc will ensure a limitless supply of potentially valid asylum seekers and economic migrants towards these shores for years to come and in even greater numbers than we have seen to date.
Already half of social housing in London is occupied by foreign born tenants and rising, we cannot build enough homes to support the current numbers and our own children are living in sub standard and often temporary accommodation or paying extortionate rents to private landlords.
Many of the people entering the country are simply not equipped in language or skills to support themselves in our economy so we end up with numbers like 72% of the Somali community having to be placed in social housing we don't have to spare and Congolese, Iraqis and Afghans claiming benefits at four times the rate of British people.
Our infrastructure is crumbling our Health service is barely fit for purpose and despite taxation being at a post war high we still needed to borrow £131 Billion in the last year, not for any great investment that might change our fortunes just to keep the shitshow on the road for a bit longer. Interest just to service our current debts now over £100Billion annually and we keep borrowing.
This is a small island with one of the highest population densities in the world, the country feels full and our social cohesion is under strain, consequently the majority of the electorate wants immigration to be severely curbed. Politicians of all parties have promised to deliver this and then utterly failed to do so.
A Labour government is pushing through £5 Billion of Welfare cuts by the end of the Parliament causing great anxiety to genuinely sick and disabled people while in the same breath stumping up over £5 Billion annually to handle the current asylum workload with still a backlog of over 100,000 applications and more arriving by the day plus over £7 Billion annually in Universal credit to foreign nationals that are supposed to be supporting the economy not draining it.

So, given that they will keep coming....
How many will you be prepared to take ?
Is there any point at which you would stop?
What will be the impact on our Welfare and Health provision ?
What is your solution ?
 
They can access NHS care. Which, hopefully, any civilized country would offer, but it still costs money.

They can get access to primary ( GP ) care but secondary ( hospital ) is subject to charges.

Work visa applicants pay £1035 per adult per year £716 per child per year - so if someone gets a work visa and comes here with a partner plus 2 kids 16 + and 2 under 16's that costs @ £6300 pa for a service they may never use. Of course vested interests won't tell you that.
 
Canada, vastly underpopulated country.

Its also a sovereign country which a lot of people who have made a lot of national sovereignty in recent years who seem to want to cast aside that of Canada with not thought these days
 
In the UK asylum seekers receive around £50 per week. In Germany they receive around £100 per week. In Sweden I think they even get free food.

So, probably not here solely for our bountiful State benefits. Perhaps it’s the weather that tips the balance in our favour. Although we take far fewer asylum seekers than Germany, so no, that isn’t helping either.
The support asylum seekers get doesn't count as state benefits, they have no recourse to public funds unless they get a positive decision, then they would have leave to remain and the same access to public funds as anyone else in the population.

Asylum seekers awaiting a claim decision have full access to NHS and Education for themselves (often ESOL) or children, and continues if they get a positive decision as they are just like a UK citizen, who is habitually resident in the common travel area, at that stage.
 

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