The Labour Government

The illegal immigrants figures are a complete red herring. The demographic shift many of us see in our communities is due to legal immigration. Compared to that, the apparently large numbers arriving in dinghies are insignificant.
Sadly, no political party has the courage to admit that we desperately need immigration due to our ageing population, and that yes - it will include importing terrorists, criminals and all sorts of other issues.
We have to accept the downsides along with the benefits. I'm in the fortunate position that I can afford to live somewhere where the immigration issue is not problematic, but if you are not so lucky, then frankly you should have worked harder at school.
 
Metal Biker said:
pre-2024 BlueHammer85 would have been disgusted by these figures, calling them a racist Tory policy and a persecution of innocent workers and that there was no such thing as 'Migrants working illegally'.

So what happened to you?
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Point me to a post which I would have suggested similar to this.
 
Hertzblue said:
What ?

So you prefer that the Jocks continue to receive almost £2,500k per head of additional public spending versus the rest of the country, subsidised by the taxes of the rest of the country ? Do you prefer that all other parties lack the courage to face into this issue? Credit where it is due, Farage faced into this question and addressed it, it cannot be right. Can it ?

In what is considered pro-independence, pro-immigration, pro EU remainer Scotland, Reform who last time polled 58 ( Fifty eight ) votes in this constituency , got 7,088 votes this time. Only 1,471 votes behind Labour - despite Farage fronting up and telling them that he would review the Barnett formula and effectively cut their public services.
That tells you " the tide is well against Reform in Scotland" does it ?
Whatever you don't give up your day job on here to be an opinion pollster will you.
John Curtice can sleep easy in his bed tonight.
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still came 3rd though
 
Vic said:
I think you'll find that the Normans were not illegal entrants. What law did they break?

Now the Glorious Revolution was illegal, but once here William made himself king so that made it fine and not illegal - just like any asylum seeker who gets asylum granted under international law.
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So what you saying Vic? We can look forward to towns and City's with high immigration population (because believe it or not they're there) being taken over and Sharia Law being introduced.... because that's what the Elders decree and the majority want?

Oh happy days.
 
BobKowalski said:
There is a screening process which includes verifying your identity which goes toward the veracity of an individuals claim. We used to have access to the EU’s screening process which is helpful in processing a claim. I don’t know if that is still the case.
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It wasn’t as we lost access following our exit from Europe. However, it has now been reinstated in the recent deal.
 
hilts said:
Pot kettle, anyhow I can see the difference so you probably need to have a word with Sir Keir of Uturnshire who said he was going to smash the gangs and stop the boats.

Two nice little 3 word slogans, you know the ones some posters used to rightly call out Johnson Trump Farage as examples.They've gone quiet on that a bit like protecting the elderly, the disabled, austerity, immigration is great etc.......

I suppose he could have said reducing the boats as opposed to stopping the boats but he didn't.

Reducing the boats


Nice 3 word slogan that:-)

* sorry for pointing out hypocrisy I know it irks some.
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I'm not the one with 32000 posts!!
 
hampshireblue said:
I'm not the one with 32000 posts!!
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Shall I search all those with more posts than you and me to see if you have mentioned your new angst at posters with lots of posts?

You haven't mentioned it to them? I am surprised about that:-)

Notice you didn't reply to the majority of the post on reduction and stopping. We both know you can't. You need to be on more solid ground if you're gonna try and be a clever dick with people.

Hypocrisy and cowardice some result. Well done.

Ttfn
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Arrests of migrants working illegally in the UK have increased by 51% in the year since the general election, after the government targeted restaurants, nail bars, and construction sites.

From 5 July 2024 - the day after Labour won the election - to 31 May 2025, 6,410 people have been arrested on suspicion of working illegally, according to Home Office figures.


This is a rise of 51% on the previous year when the Conservatives were in government, the department says.
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Great to see this end of the chain being cracked down on. I hope their employers are also arrested.

The government said they were going to do this and they are. Can’t argue with that.
 
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BigJoe#1 said:
being taken over and Sharia Law being introduced.... because that's what the Elders decree and the majority want?

Oh happy days.
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Joe, is that last bit supposition on your part/rhetorical flourish or is it based on some data? I know there was a Policy Exchange survey about 10 years ago that suggested around 40% of UK Muslims favoured some aspects of Sharia but I dug into that survey and Policy Exchange itself and both struck me as untrustworthy and flawed. Since then the data that is available is very partial and quite confusing. Based on what I've read I would guess and it is a guess that about 10%-15% of UK Muslims would like to see significant elements of Sharia law implemented and that number goes up for some family related aspects like divorce and allowing polygamy. But in terms of actually replacing UK law with Sharia I would guess from what I've read that number is about 5% which is about a third to a half of a percentage point of the total population. Given I can find much bigger percentages of nutters presenting other bigger threats to our way of life across the broader population than that fraction of a percentage point, it doesn't keep me awake at night. In fairness this isn't something I've looked at recently so if that trend is changing I'm open to understanding the data.
 
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hilts said:
Shall I search all those with more posts than you and me to see if you have mentioned your new angst at posters with lots of posts?

You haven't mentioned it to them? I am surprised about that:-)

Notice you didn't reply to the majority of the post on reduction and stopping. We both know you can't. You need to be on more solid ground if you're gonna try and be a clever dick with people.

Hypocrisy and cowardice some result. Well done.

Ttfn
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It was because I was on an acute cardiac ward for 3 weeks. But if that makes me a coward so be it.
 
hampshireblue said:
It was because I was on an acute cardiac ward for 3 weeks. But if that makes me a coward so be it.
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What you talking about? I was referring to the post I made today to you so don't try that particular shitty way of trying to get out of what I posted. Not on that.

I'm genuinely happy you are doing well though.
 
hilts said:
What you talking about? I was referring to the post I made today to you so don't try that particular shitty way of trying to get out of what I posted. Not on that.

I'm genuinely happy you are doing well though.
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You give yourself too much credit my friend in thinking that we all read all of your posts and can actually be arsed to reply to every point.

Your "pointless" post is a good example of other posterd ignoring your other stuff. No need to reply!

Thanks for the goodwill wish.
 
hampshireblue said:
You give yourself too much credit my friend in thinking that we all read all of your posts and can actually be arsed to reply to every point.

Thanks for the goodwill wish.
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So you replied to a post you didn't even read, of course you did sunshine

There's that cowardice again, seriously work on it, it's only a football forum

You're welcome btw, hope it's smooth running from here.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
So what you saying Vic? We can look forward to towns and City's with high immigration population (because believe it or not they're there) being taken over and Sharia Law being introduced.... because that's what the Elders decree and the majority want?

Oh happy days.
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You are aware that we've had Jewish courts in the UK since the 1700's and Catholic Courts since the middle ages ...... surely ... you are aware of that ..... so why are you banging on about Sharia Law?



Religious courts can only deal with religious matters and cannot 'step outside' of the law of the land.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
You are aware that we've had Jewish courts in the UK since the 1700's and Catholic Courts since the middle ages ...... surely ... you are aware of that ..... so why are you banging on about Sharia Law?



Religious courts can only deal with religious matters and cannot 'step outside' of the law of the land.
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.... and? It was a question and to your last point .... "and cannot 'step outside' of the law of the land" underlines the validity of the question in relation to Vic's comment IMO.

Like I've said it is a question.
 
hilts said:
So you replied to a post you didn't even read, of course you did sunshine

There's that cowardice again, seriously work on it, it's only a football forum

You're welcome btw, hope it's smooth running from here.
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You clearly are struggling. I replied to Username Required and your subsequent interventions. I have not needed to read any of your posts except those in this exchange. So no, I didn't reply to any post I hadn't read in full.
 
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