The Labour Government

[hampshireblue]

OMG. The ghost of Harold Wilson !

Prices and incomes policy done to death and discredited

By single rate, I meant with reference to RPI or CPI. Poorly worded by me.

 

[TinFoilHat]

 

[roypaulknewmyfather]

Absolutely nailed it!

 

[TinFoilHat]

Absolutely nailed it!

Again it takes a satirist to tell more truth than the so called political media.

 

[M18CTID]

It may be, but we have had a succession of disasters since 1997 so we are not in unchartered territory.
They at least appear to have the will and the courage to attempt to tackle our failing state, as we have seen this last week, that is something the Labour Party do not have despite their pre - election rhetoric.

If they get in, let’s see what effect their proposed £80 billion of unfunded tax cuts have. Assuming they go ahead with them that is.

I’ll also dispute that it hasn’t been a succession of disasters since 1997. The early Blair years were far from a disaster and Cameron was doing ok until he fucked up and agreed to a public vote on Brexit.

 

[blueinsa]

Move your company then or challenge the one you're with.

Or challenge the lie that they’re bringing our bills down?

Remember that promise?

 

[M18CTID]

My new energy tariff offer is currently a 7% increase on last offer yet price cap supposedly gone down.

All lies.

Could be that the energy companies aren’t offering fixed rate deals that are quite as good as they previously were when you last signed a deal, regardless of the price cap coming down. My 1 year fix with EDF is coming to an end on July 31st. I was paying £126 a month. I could’ve got another 1 year fix for about the same price but opted for a 2 year fix for a slightly higher £129 a month. I don’t think that’s unreasonable as it gives me security of knowing what I’m paying for 2 years without worrying about price increases in the meantime.

 

[M18CTID]

Or challenge the lie that they’re bringing our bills down?

Remember that promise?

Unless your usage has gone up a fair bit, I doubt anyone’s energy bills have increased by about 30% as yours have. Mine certainly haven’t, so you might want to ask your supplier why it’s gone up so much. It could simply be that there’s an anomaly somewhere in the way they’ve worked out your new monthly payment, or they’re taking the piss.

By the way, Starmer said he was aiming to get the average annual household energy bill down by £300 by 2030. We’re still in 2025.

 

[BobKowalski]

I was £1200 in credit, paying £160 a month th and in the same month the cap goes down and I’m told Labour are reducing my bills I get told they want to up my DD to £214 a month.

Yeah, fucking right!

Why on earth would you allow an energy company to hold £1200 of your money? Customers are entitled to ask for refunds on excessive credit. £200 is ample.

 

[xgorton]

Why on earth would you allow an energy company to hold £1200 of your money? Customers are entitled to ask for refunds on excessive credit. £200 is ample.

Don't understand why people pay in every month,I've been with utility warehouse for the last 12 years every month I get my Gas and Electricity bill with the correct reading 2 weeks later it comes out of my bank.

 

[hilts]

Mods can we make this a sticky please :-)

 

[BobKowalski]

Or challenge the lie that they’re bringing our bills down?

Remember that promise?

My current two year deal is for £192 a month down from £207 under the previous two year deal. I’d get my £1200 back and switch energy companies if I were you.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I was £1200 in credit, paying £160 a month th and in the same month the cap goes down and I’m told Labour are reducing my bills I get told they want to up my DD to £214 a month.

Yeah, fucking right!

What the hell happened there? You were paying about £1800 a year, so you are approximately 8 months in credit. You are now going through the spring/summer months where you usually gain more credit, to cover the darker months where you use more energy. And now they want nearly a third more?

It’s a fact that energy prices have dropped so I’d suggest you get onto one of those switch sites as they are clearly taking your money for their own ends. I look after my energy package and pay £118.00 a month for a 4 bedroom, so can’t understand how yours is so high.

Wait! Are you Rishi Sunak with your new heated swimming pool ;-)

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Love Johnathon Pie. He always seems to tell it how it is and includes the risks in his analysis.

 

[Vic]

Could have something to do with their lack of anything to say?

How would you know?

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

The Lib Dems. The trouble is, they're not getting nowhere near as much airtime as Reform are getting despite having dozens more MPs. Farage and Reform are never off our TV screens these days it seems.

Disgruntled Tories will vote LibDems some disappointed Labour voters will do the same The next time we will get a coalition government with no overall majority. The media is pushing Reform all the time but I don’t see them getting the predicted share of the vote in a GE the polls don’t always predict a GE result. I don’t remember the tories getting this much stick from the media when Johnson was making a mess of things.

So far Labour sorted out the doctors strike, the train strike, the private school tax relief system and tried to fix the rich 10% WFA more pensioners will get it and rich people won’t, not bad for the first 12 months

Social reform is a step to far but no party will be able to fix it either we have a lot of disabled over fifties who now claim benefits because we raised the state pension age.

 

[Vic]

So what? Has yours? Has everyone else's in the private sector? I don't know why public sector workers think it's their god-given right to never see their pay go down in real terms, irrespective of the financial constraints the country finds itself in. Why should they get special treatment when they are in reality paid extremely well on any absolute basis.

From around 1995 to 2013, I think I got an annual pay rise perhaps 3 or 4 times, and never more than RPI in any given year. That's typical in the IT sector, especially in smaller companies. You get merit based promotions - or not - but other than that, often your pay doesn't move. And the company's pension contribution was usually 4% or 5%. Not 27%.

Is there a shortage of IT bods like there was of train drivers?

Market forces, dear boy...

 

[Vic]

At the risk of repeating myself, also, in normal walks of life and employer will say "Sorry <workforce< but the figures this year are not good and you're not getting a payrise. Why this is unthinkable in the public sector, I don't know.

Worse, in the private sector, they might also say "And 10% of you are being made redundant". Doctors don't have to worry about that either.

Honest to god, if I had my career choices all over again, I'd choose the public sector for sure. People rarely get sacked, they earn very good money, get more holidays, get great pensions and get to retire early. And get to moan incessantly about hard done by they are. Oh, and get MBE's and OBE's thrown in as well.

Oh yeah, lots of refuse collectors with OBEs.

 

[Don Karleone]

Pie who helped to usher in these cunts? Not for me.

 

[Vic]

I was £1200 in credit, paying £160 a month th and in the same month the cap goes down and I’m told Labour are reducing my bills I get told they want to up my DD to £214 a month.

Yeah, fucking right!

Tell them to bog off if you're in credit