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maxwellblue said:
Have you considered all the times Amge has called for the resignation of others who had been accused of doing what she has admitted to. Not forgetting the numerous times Starmer called for resignations and the numerous times he preached how anyone caught doing anything corrupt on his watch would be out straight away.
Have you thought it just might be the hypocrisy that people are pissed about.
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In the scheme of things, what she's done is pretty fucking minor, it's not worth all the teeth gnashing that's going on. As I said, I'm not a fan at all, she's comes across like a bit of a dick, but the pile on is pathetic. From what I've read, and I'm sure people will tell me if I'm wrong, she made a mistake in assuming that one of her residences didn't count in terms of paying a rate of stamp duty. It's possible she did it deliberately, but it's possible she actually just made a mistake, either way, it's fuck all in comparison to the grift from others. The political conversation in this country is fucked.
 
bluejon said:
In the scheme of things, what she's done is pretty fucking minor, it's not worth all the teeth gnashing that's going on. As I said, I'm not a fan at all, she's comes across like a bit of a dick, but the pile on is pathetic. From what I've read, and I'm sure people will tell me if I'm wrong, she made a mistake in assuming that one of her residences didn't count in terms of paying a rate of stamp duty. It's possible she did it deliberately, but it's possible she actually just made a mistake, either way, it's fuck all in comparison to the grift from others. The political conversation in this country is fucked.
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I am a pensioner and now have a ‘K’ tax code, it pisses me off that I abide by all the rules but people like her flaunt them.
 
bluejon said:
In the scheme of things, what she's done is pretty fucking minor, it's not worth all the teeth gnashing that's going on. As I said, I'm not a fan at all, she's comes across like a bit of a dick, but the pile on is pathetic. From what I've read, and I'm sure people will tell me if I'm wrong, she made a mistake in assuming that one of her residences didn't count in terms of paying a rate of stamp duty. It's possible she did it deliberately, but it's possible she actually just made a mistake, either way, it's fuck all in comparison to the grift from others. The political conversation in this country is fucked.
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You're missing the point of what I posted. It matters not how big or little the indiscretion was. It's about her and Starmer's continued preaching that if anything occurred on their watch they would be out. We are seeing now that was just words from both of them, a stick to beat the tories with at the time of them saying it. AS I said in my post, it's the hypocrisy of the pair of them that is pissing people off.

I care not one little bit if she or anyone else manages to get away with paying less tax. But don't come the holier than thou attitude towards others if you do it.
 
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Gray said:
I am a pensioner and now have a ‘K’ tax code, it pisses me off that I abide by all the rules but people like her flaunt them.
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Good for you, you're awesome, but from what I've read, it's entirely possible she's made a mistake but everyone is so quick to jump specifically on her, primarily because parts of the media and twitter get everyone so wound up about her. They don't like northerners getting out their box you see.
 
maxwellblue said:
You're missing the point of what I posted. I matters not how big or little the indiscretion was. It's about her and Starmer's continued preaching that if anything occurred on their watch they would be out. We are seeing now that was just words from both of them, a stick to beat the tories with at the time of them saying it. AS I said in my post, it's the hypocrisy of the pair of them that is pissing people off.

I care not one little bit if she or anyone else manages to get away with paying less tax. But don't come the holier than thou attitude towards others if you do it.
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And what if she just made a mistake and misunderstood the rules? I'm not trying to defend her by the way, I'm just saying the narrative towards her specifically is a disgrace.
 
bluejon said:
And what if she just made a mistake and misunderstood the rules? I'm not trying to defend her by the way, I'm just saying the narrative towards her specifically is a disgrace.
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If you believe that after she employed a firm of tax advisors then the moon is made of cheese.

Besides, her best nate is Rach from accounts, surely she would have been able to point her in the right
 
maxwellblue said:
If you believe that after she employed a firm of tax advisors then the moon is made of cheese.

Besides, her best nate is Rach from accounts, surely she would have been able to point her in the right
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The fact you are calling her Rach from accounts says all I need to know. Stay off twitter and gbnews mate, it will make your life better.
 
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bluejon said:
The fact you are calling her Rach from accounts says all I need to know. Stay off twitter and gbnews mate, it will make your life better.
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The fact that is the thing you picked up on from my post says all I need to know. Never been on twitter and never will. I am not ashamed to admit that when I watch a news channel it is GBN. Maybe you should try it.

However you're correct, it should have been Rach from complaints.
 
maxwellblue said:
The fact that is the thing you picked up on from my post says all I need to know. Never been on twitter and never will. I am not ashamed to admit that when I watch a news channel it is GBN. Maybe you should try it.

However you're correct, it should have been Rach from complaints.
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GBNews is not news, it's a wind up machine to get you upset and get people using stupid phrases like rach from accounts. It's embarrassing. Anyway, good that you're nowhere near twitter, that is just a cesspit of outrage, mostly from bots and paid trolls.
 
bluejon said:
GBNews is not news, it's a wind up machine to get you upset and get people using stupid phrases like rach from accounts. It's embarrassing. Anyway, good that you're nowhere near twitter, that is just a cesspit of outrage, mostly from bots and paid trolls.
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Isn't GBN on X?
 
Blue Maverick said:
So you go to an expert which allegedly she did, they say it’s nit your second house because of your circumstances, if they have paperwork to prove this how far do you go, do you ask 20 different experts how vigilant do you need to be? When I ask a professional accountant, solicitor etc I expect them to-give me the correct advice, if it’s wrong is that my fault or theirs?
Like I said if she’s done wrong and she knew then she’s should be sacked, however just look at the other story making the rounds on the footballers who have lost millions, they were using experts seemed they got fucked over. Let me ask you all those people who bought flats with the dodgy cladding (Grenfell) is it their fault I mean according you ignorance is not an excuse, or do you trust the supposed experts who built it to keep you safe.
Can I just add from the stories I’ve heard about her locally I thinks she’s a bit of an arsehole, however political witch-hunts etc are just getting on my tits these days.
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Not a witch hunt on my part as my previous posts show, you say if she has done wrong she should be sacked then say but if an expert advised her then is it her fault ? So we are back to where I came in.

How do you know which one it was? Was it the expert who turns out not to be an expert at all or Angela getting advice on what she may get away with.

Are we letting off everyone who claims an expert suddenly didn't know what they'were talking about, in private, with no proof, yeah that bloke said it was fine.

BTW it's called a 2nd opinion not a 20th opinion.

But hey let's be gullible and believe neither the housing minister or an 'expert' did their homework which just happened to make her 40k better off.
 
bluejon said:
The crying from the right over the Rayner story is pathetic considering the grift from the tories over the past few years. Billions were stolen during COVID yet rayner is getting more front covers for this. I'm not a Rayner fan at all, but the narrative is so fucking skewed. We deserve the shitshow that we are.
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Quick look over there someone else once did something


The laughable deflection attempt that no one falls for keeps getting trotted out by someone on here.

For someone not trying to defend her you seem to be doing a great impression of ............


Someone trying to defend her
 
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hilts said:
Quick look over there someone else once did something


The laughable deflection attempt that no one falls for keeps getting trotted out by someone on here.

For someone not trying to defend her you seem to be doing a great impression of ............


Someone trying to defend her
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i'm not trying to defend her, i'm pointing out the massive double standards.
 
bluejon said:
i'm not trying to defend her, i'm pointing out the massive double standards.
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We know the things the Tories did because guess what the news reported them as well. So its just a look over there which gets pretty tedious after about the thousandth time. It's just like the expenses thing, filling your pockets isn't a party thing, or a politician thing.
But you cannot be calling out others for doing it and expect to get away with it yourself.

You may not see it but your posts were defending her, and using the words double standards is quite ironic as it appears that may be her downfall.

Anyhow looks like we shall find out soon, I'm sure I heard the firm she dealt with have.now said they gave her no tax advice.
 
hilts said:
We know the things the Tories did because guess what the news reported them as well. So its just a look over there which gets pretty tedious after about the thousandth time. It's just like the expenses thing, filling your pockets isn't a party thing, or a politician thing.
But you cannot be calling out others for doing it and expect to get away with it yourself.

You may not see it but your posts were defending her, and using the words double standards is quite ironic as it appears that may be her downfall.

Anyhow looks like we shall find out soon, I'm sure I heard the firm she dealt with have.now said they gave her no tax advice.
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No, that's how you've interpreted my posts. I've even made it clear I don't particularly like her, she comes across like a knob, but the hysteria over her, not just over this, but over anything about her in general, speaks of snobbery towards a northern woman in a position of power. Same with Rachel Reeves. And if she did do this deliberately then she should go, simple as. But considering what others have done, this whole thing is pretty depressing.
 
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